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author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 20:35:50 Title: Strongest VG?

So , all the time I thought TS Ichigo is the best Vg , doesnt matter how you look at him.
Now I´ve been told , the best PvP team is Ichibe , Senju , Hiki , Nimaiya , Main

Maybe someone can explain why this set-up is the *best*

author: Aristeaus time: 2016-3-1 20:37:58

Well for one, the cost of Hiki + Ichibei + Niyama together is the same as just TSI.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 20:39:28

Aristeaus replied at 2016-3-1 20:37
Well for one, the cost of Hiki + Ichibei + Niyama together is the same as just TSI.

Well , lets say , Gold doesnt matter , I just want to know which is the best pvp set up and why

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 20:44:51

I have both tsi and ichibei. I use ichibei exclusively. Tsi is mostly an offensive vanguard, whereas ichibei is an extremely defensive vanguard. The way the game currently is, there's really not much point in offensive vanguards at the upper level of gameplay since every other partner is easily faster than they are. Ichibei easily get better stats, his hp especially is incomparable. His skill is entirely focused around making him difficult to kill.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 20:49:37

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 20:44
I have both tsi and ichibei. I use ichibei exclusively. Tsi is mostly an offensive vanguard, whereas ...

I like that answer
I never reached high lvl , just wondering about things ...
So , Ichibe is the best VG bcause he is tanky AF?
Lets say , you start a new account , lvl 1 , new server , day 1.
You have to choose , Ichibe / TS Ichigo , consider you will be [normally] the strongest , great distance.
It takes a long time to reach high lvl [I´ve heard so]
So , who would you choose for the first months , or longer [Without thinking at Evo etc]
Just simply who would help more in the first few months

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-1 21:09:26

KilluahZoldyeck replied at 2016-3-1 20:49
I like that answer
I never reached high lvl , just wondering about things ...
So , Ichibe is the ...

At early game surely TSI.
Since his skill is every usefull and not much player have a good counter for a stacked shinji(lvl 70 tavern aoe partner). All they do is attack him and hope they kill him before he attacks.
Ichibe is good for mid lvl or late game, where you will face alot of soul palace bosses.
and also for high survivability in certain csb or hme.
TSI is like an all out Brute Force Formation. thou he can cc but people don't get him for that, since most partners have immune to silence as an early mod.
Ichibe on the other hand, well he is good around.
If you stack him up like a stark his attacks are aoe and pretty good and if i actually build him right then he will never die, due to healing factor.

More or less like choosen btw Hollowed Ichigo and Stark.
TSI is stark and Ichibe is Hollowed Ichigo/Komamura.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 21:13:09

[email protected] replied at 2016-3-1 21:09
At early game surely TSI.
Since his skill is every usefull and not much player have a good counte ...

So , it would not be a waste to go with TS Ichigo in the first few months , maybe 4-5 , in that time focusing at other partners , and then get Ichibe and concentrate on him?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 21:48:23

KilluahZoldyeck replied at 2016-3-1 20:49
I like that answer
I never reached high lvl , just wondering about things ...
So , Ichibe is the ...

Ichibei is amazing for early game as well as late game. His amazing tankiness means that you'll pretty much never have to worry about dying in early game, and by the time you reach late game he'll have leveled up alongside you.

You are correct that it takes a fairly long time to level up. However if you establish yourself early as the dominant player on your server you should be able to level up fairly quickly. My recommendation is to make a solid pve formation so as to assist in leveling yourself up as quickly as possible. Ichibei will help you a lot in getting through the hollow soul map fights, which will help set you up for an overall stronger team much quicker than most people.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 21:54:07

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 21:48
Ichibei is amazing for early game as well as late game. His amazing tankiness means that you'll pr ...

Man , your answer sounds so professional , I have to believe you´re right

So , Ichibe as VG is the best way ..
So what do you think about pvp?
I mean , as I now know , lvling takes a long time , so it would be better to focus on Pve a long time , right?
Buuut, I do not really want to buy 2 whole teams , so could you suggest 1 pvp team [ignore cold costs]
And a pve team where i dont have to switch out many partners , probably only 1 or 2
Thaaanks

And btw , did I just watched a yt video from you?

author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-3-1 21:59:26

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 21:48
Ichibei is amazing for early game as well as late game. His amazing tankiness means that you'll pr ...

haha I used to have to deal witht the bullshit of ichibe but shin and pantera grimmjow cast laceration on ichbes bitch ass so hes not that much of a problem when hes not stacked

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:04:29

KilluahZoldyeck replied at 2016-3-1 21:54
Man , your answer sounds so professional , I have to believe you´re right

So , Ichibe as VG i ...

You probably did watch a youtube video from me if it was from Kosmo Keo and has my profile pic XD

Anyways, I can easily suggest a formation for you that takes care of both your pvp and pve needs by only swapping around 1 partner. For pvp it would be Ichibei, Senjumaru, Hikifune, and Oetsu. For pve you would swap ichibei's gear onto Berserk renji. If you want to take it a step farther then you can also get unohana kenpachi to put in oetsu's place for pve. This would essentially be mimicking my formation.

So again to clarify, I use Ichibei, Senjumaru, Hikifune, and Oetsu for pvp. And I use Berserk Renji, Senjumaru, Hikifune, and Unohana Kenpachi for pve. Katen Kyokotsu for zanpakuto since it's easily the best option right now for both pvp and pve. Lastly I'll say that if you want, Oetsu necessary to get. I like him because he has amazing attack power capabilities, and his 6th mod is simply god like for your team's speed. But all in all he's not absolutely necessary.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:06:26

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-1 21:59
haha I used to have to deal witht the bullshit of ichibe but shin and pantera grimmjow cast lacera ...

Lmfao XD

There's certainly way to deal with any partner out there. I normally assume that if someone's willing to invest in ichibae though that they are willing to do one of two things. Either stack the hell out of him, or have multiple partners of his tier, such as senjumaru or hiki.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 22:07:39

Edited by KilluahZoldyeck at 2016-3-1 22:09

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 22:04
You probably did watch a youtube video from me if it was from Kosmo Keo and has my profile pic XD
...

Yeah exactly ! You´re insane m8 , nearly 1-shot every team in the CSB...

So , I´m totally fine with copying your formation

It´s kind of funny how the whole pvp team + B-renji doesnt come any close to the price of , lets say , Mugetsu + TS Ichigo + B-Rukia

Uhm , 1 question , on which partner do you focus? There has to be one

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-1 22:07:47

It just really depends.. Late game Noz Kenpachi is the easily the most exploitable tank and if stacked it's the hardest to take down.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:10:35

KilluahZoldyeck replied at 2016-3-1 22:07
Yeah exactly ! You´re insane m8 , nearly 1-shot every team in the CSB...

So , I´m totally fine w ...

I'll answer in two pictures, since I focus on these two XD
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author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:11:58

[email protected] replied at 2016-3-1 22:07
It just really depends.. Late game Noz Kenpachi is the easily the most exploitable tank and if stack ...

Noza kenpachi has the gigantic weakness of if he's the last partner alive then his fossilize on enemy vanguard plus his +100 fury to self basically means he can't deal damage.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 22:21:22

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 22:10
I'll answer in two pictures, since I focus on these two XD

Damn.

So , how mutch Gold do you think will this team cost me?+ Zanpakuto
And if I have gold left , make them to coupons and buy spirit stones?

Thanks:x

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:29:27

KilluahZoldyeck replied at 2016-3-1 22:21
Damn.

So , how mutch Gold do you think will this team cost me?+ Zanpakuto

Well If you do it during the right events you should be able to get at least some of them from topping up, then you can use the gold to buy the rest. Katen runs around 40k gold, and each of the partners I listed runs around 12k gold. But if you get some from topping up then altogether it should run you somewhere in the range of a 40-60k gold top up for the partners + zanpakuto. After that you can spend however much more you're willing to on buying gear and stones and hogyo treasures and accessories etc etc etc.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 22:44:12

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 22:29
Well If you do it during the right events you should be able to get at least some of them from top ...

40-60k Gold for the whole team would be awesome

Sooo , I kind of forgot that High lvl gear cost Gold ....
So , I think I should save some gold for the right events , not spending everything in 1 single blow

author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-3-1 22:50:38

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 22:06
Lmfao XD

There's certainly way to deal with any partner out there. I normally assume that if some ...

lol even a stacked ichibe is no match for my anal-rape
#THE SECRET 11TH SKILL
#UNLOCKED BY ME

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:51:24

KilluahZoldyeck replied at 2016-3-1 22:44
40-60k Gold for the whole team would be awesome

Sooo , I kind of forgot that High lvl gear cos ...

Correct. Definitely find a good event to top up during that will give you the most bang for your buck. Then spend the gold slowly to get partners while also getting some solid gear as bonuses here and there.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-1 22:52:34

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-1 22:50
lol even a stacked ichibe is no match for my anal-rape
#THE SECRET 11TH SKILL
#UNLOCKED BY ME

Please tell me that's not the main character exclusive skill. If so I'm gonna cry from you putting that many of those fragments into your main O.o

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 22:54:31

Currently I´m waiting for the........... That event if you get 1st place you´ll get 100% gold back ...

As soon as this event arrives I plan to spend..... well... 1st place.
If I have to spend 50k gold , I will , I meaaaan , 50k gold back :O
So yeah , I should have enough gold for the rest of my bleach-life.
Even tho I´ve no idea how mutch sets cost , or what lvl sets are worth buying , or at which lvl I should start , 80 , 100 ...
Still many questions

author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-3-1 23:13:17

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 22:52
Please tell me that's not the main character exclusive skill. If so I'm gonna cry from you putting ...

lol no no hell no
I don't even have close enough to unlock anyones exclusive skill
#I TOLD YOU MY MAINS THE FIRST DARK CHARACTER(BLACK)
#I UNLOCKED SECRET 11TH SKILL
#EXCLUSIVE SKILL IS CALLED EXCLUSIVE SKILL

author: Gurr time: 2016-3-1 23:20:46

We'll have some new van so it's better to wait now.

author: KilluahZoldyeck time: 2016-3-1 23:23:34

Gurr replied at 2016-3-1 23:20
We'll have some new van so it's better to wait now.

Well , I still have to wait about 3 months , then I can play the game again properly

Sooo , maybe things change

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-2 05:28:23

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 21:48
Ichibei is amazing for early game as well as late game. His amazing tankiness means that you'll pr ...

True but as shadow said.
If your enemy has Grimmjow(which most people have) his skill seems to become less functional.
but he will still tank the battle thou.
Also having someone that does alot of dmg as TSI can help you finish off enemy quicker which is always good for something like HME since you need to survive inother to get the most. In that respect ichibe might tank but against certain partner like Grimmjow you might actually need to take out the team fast.

Just saying. but if you team is focused around a very good AOE partner then you just need someone to tank the incoming dmg until he can skill and wipe them out.
But if you don't have so much attk pow to be able to oneshot or almost oneshot then you probably need the extra hand.

Altogether If i have a cc formation you might go with ichibe inother to tank all the incoming while you slowly finish them off. OR, (still having a cc team like Gin/Aizen) you might want a dmg vanguard for quick finish.
But it all comes down to preference.
do you prefer a Stark(TSI) or Hollowed ichigo(ICHIBE).

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-2 05:38:24

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-1 22:11
Noza kenpachi has the gigantic weakness of if he's the last partner alive then his fossilize on en ...

True but, he blocks and kill the other partner,
He silences and heal(revive).
He still occasionally kills vanguard.
(His new skill takes away that weakness thou).

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightrep ... ;t=1&lang=ru_RU

author: moongoatie time: 2016-3-2 06:41:03

Tbh i would like to see noza with mayuri's 5th mod. That block rate seems just too.. Tho probably when mayuri dies that effect is gonna vanish

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