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author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-20 18:25:26 Title: Attentiongrabbing title: Gogames is doing f2p wrong?

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-3-21 00:34

Yea yea, i know...
Im not hating on gogames, just sharing some very interesting videos on f2p games

How High Costs Drive Players Away from F2P Games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Can We Stop Predatory Practices?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBtXyv0Q1Eg

How Bad Monetization Harms F2P Games-----This is imo the most interesting one ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhz9OXy86a0
Extra Credits: Microtransactions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXA559KNopI

Btw, Extra credits are awesome

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-3-20 19:08:38

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author: adamkrem time: 2016-3-20 19:21:10

Go Games doesn't care about free to play.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-3-20 19:57:32

Can you please make a list of things the you hate about us and write it on the next top up request. So we can print it an wipe our asses with it?
- GoGames Official

author: erlonr time: 2016-3-20 20:22:27

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-3-20 21:57
Can you please make a list of things the you hate about us and write it on the next top up request. ...

Damn... that profile pic is epic man!

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-3-20 20:24:04

erlonr replied at 2016-3-21 01:22
Damn... that profile pic is epic man!

Thanks, Shiki Ryougi from kara no kyoukai (Garden of sinners). Really good anime. Assassin recommends.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-20 20:25:09

Please make a list of all the things you think we're doing wrong by not providing enough for f2p's. This way we can make sure we include more of all those things since so far it's making us an ass load of money. Thanks

-GoGames CEO-

author: LeoNx93 time: 2016-3-20 22:46:30

free to play = you should get NOTHING. be glad you get something lmao. as a free player the more you get.. the more entittled you feel.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-3-20 22:51:03

Not gonna watch any of the links but just read the tittle

GoGames is doing F2P perfectly, similar to other uniquely great games with their 'VIP'-esque system like Runescape. Absolutely brilliant what these 2 games offer

author: playbleach1 time: 2016-3-20 22:51:12

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-3-20 19:57
Can you please make a list of things the you hate about us and write it on the next top up request. ...

you let me down...........WHERE IS MY COOL ITACHI HOMIEEEEEEEEEEEE.

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-3-20 23:48:47

Edited by ShadowConsortium at 2016-3-20 23:49

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-3-20 22:51
Not gonna watch any of the links but just read the tittle

GoGames is doing F2P perfectly, similar t ...

I actually agree. I mean some features shouldn't be locked, things like Conquest/Agent one click mop-up, the x10 Tavern, Gold/Coupons for Beauty Games etc.. But for the most part the system works. I've played as F2P, Vip 10 etc.. and I never had any complaints about how things are. Most browser games are actually worst with the restrictions.

author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-3-20 23:51:31

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-20 20:25
Please make a list of all the things you think we're doing wrong by not providing enough for f2p's. ...

I HAVE FINALLY ACEPTED THE TRUTH
#HELLO FATHER
#THY CEO OF GOGAMES

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-3-21 00:49:06

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-3-21 04:48
I actually agree. I mean some features shouldn't be locked, things like Conquest/Agent one click mo ...

yes lol, many browser games are much worse with the restrictions

hell even non-broswer games, ones you got to fully download, even those damn games have worse F2P gameplay lol, this game does it great, as i'll say again, this and Runescape have it done best than any other game I know for what they make you pay for, and what you get for free ^^

author: SosaRey time: 2016-3-21 01:02:15

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-3-20 20:24
Thanks, Shiki Ryougi from kara no kyoukai (Garden of sinners). Really good anime. Assassin recomm ...

how much episodes total? Does it have english dubbed?

author: SosaRey time: 2016-3-21 01:08:59

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-3-20 22:51
Not gonna watch any of the links but just read the tittle

GoGames is doing F2P perfectly, similar t ...

Oughta check South park cartoon ep. Freemium really isn't free. That episode explains how this type of games work.

It's run by the devil, lol.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-21 01:42:17

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-3-21 07:43

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-3-21 01:08
cant click didn't watch

my next thread will be People are doing links wrong coming sooon

As said in original post, i did not intend to diss nor bring out my opinion on the matter of whether they are or not in fact doing f2p wrong, imo it works fine as is.
But its still a discussion worth having, and sharing these links is way of expanding that discussion.
The links are links to actual gamedevelopers talking about the f2p market, i may not fully agree with them, however their points are 100% valid and theit videos are very interesting to watch

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-3-21 02:11:05

devs gotta eat goy top up more

But in all seriousness we pretty much reached the ultimate P2W now.. previously partners were just hella expensive now they release better or more unique for less. Talking about that new vanguard coming up with her speed counter. The partner after that will have like 30% speed increase or some other bs effect.

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-21 03:36:35

Brahmastra replied at 2016-3-21 08:11
devs gotta eat goy top up more

But in all seriousness we pretty much reached the ultimate P2W now.. ...

I know that devs gotta eat, and i top up all i can get away with

But yea, i agree ^^
Gold partners are becoming stronger and cheaper while f2p partners are staying the same.
This means that if a player tops up 2k and gets kirinji he can basically win against any f2p player if he is any good at the game, although this price does open the game up a little at the same time, lowering the requirements of your income to play this game and win, it makes it so that a lower VIP player has a chance of beating higher VIP players, but at the same time it makes the VIP 0 players feel forgotten.

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-3-21 04:26:22

[email protected] replied at 2016-3-21 09:36
I know that devs gotta eat, and i top up all i can get away with

But yea, i agree ^^

I was talking with kosmo the other day about this too. We are slowly heading in the UN direction although they are even more insane with new 10.00+@30,000str/stam/speed growth rate partners coming out every month. More and more insane stats or super talents.. shits craycray

author: [email protected] time: 2016-3-21 06:04:53

Brahmastra replied at 2016-3-21 10:26
I was talking with kosmo the other day about this too. We are slowly heading in the UN direction a ...

HOLY SHATBILLS

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-21 06:21:10

Brahmastra replied at 2016-3-21 04:26
I was talking with kosmo the other day about this too. We are slowly heading in the UN direction a ...

And all of them with skills like "400% damage on whole enemy team. Stun enemy team 3 turns. Own team invincible for 3 turns. Own team increase def 200% for 2 turns." All rolled into one skill.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-3-21 08:06:15

SosaRey replied at 2016-3-21 06:02
how much episodes total? Does it have english dubbed?

It's set of 4 movies, the story is not in chronological order. I've cheated and watched it in chronological though. Animation is beautiful and story is quite mature. Also the first movie is kind of hard to understand, but its worth watching for the epic-ness of shiki.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2016-3-21 08:07:45

playbleach1 replied at 2016-3-21 03:51
you let me down...........WHERE IS MY COOL ITACHI HOMIEEEEEEEEEEEE.

On EU 103/EU111 so many merges I can't keep up

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-3-21 08:54:52

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author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-3-21 09:00:07

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author: SeiryuSky time: 2016-3-21 09:16:24

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 06:21
And all of them with skills like "400% damage on whole enemy team. Stun enemy team 3 turns. Own te ...

#ACTUALLY

#STUN IS NOTHING BUT TRASH FOR THEM NOWADAYS

#EVERY NEW PARTNER HAVE LITTERALY A TIME'S SIZE TALENT

#WHICH INCLUDE IMMUNE TO ALL PRECEDING FUCKING DEBUFFS AND

#A NEW DEBUFF

#SO BASICALLY EVERY NEW PARTNER IS IMMUNE TO ALL OLD DEBUFFS

#AND HAS A NEW FUCKING DEBUFF XD

author: SeiryuSky time: 2016-3-21 09:28:49

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 06:21
And all of them with skills like "400% damage on whole enemy team. Stun enemy team 3 turns. Own te ...

#I MEAN

#http://unlimitedninja.wikia.com/wiki/Reanimated_Hiruzen

#lOOK AT THAT SHIT

#A HIRUZEN THAT IS STRONGER THAN KAGUYA

#WTF

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-3-21 09:41:32

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-3-21 14:54
we can never really catch them since they have very different assets and more ways to access power ...

>inb4 they make random ninjas like Choji come back with 20.0+ growths

author: SeiryuSky time: 2016-3-21 09:58:25

Brahmastra replied at 2016-3-21 09:41
>inb4 they make random ninjas like Choji come back with 20.0+ growths

#OP

#CHOJI FUCKING STOMACH IS OP

#READ WHAT I SHARED ABOVE THOUGH LOL

author: moongoatie time: 2016-3-21 09:59:34

Besides a few certain one click thingies they could give f2p just to save some time I don't think there is anything wrong with how f2ps are.

Imo they're doing vip system lately wrong. With all these new partners and skills, they're somewhat "forcing" people to top up 10k+ monthly if they want to compete for pvp. Not only that, partners like Kukaku girl if she gets released, will destroy previous plans and formations and a lot of people will get annoyed. After her they will probably release a super fast assaulter and meta will change once again to assaulters.

This will destroy completely mid VIP area, resulting only few selected people getting these new partners every month and the rest will be left with no idea what to do whatsoever.

author: protbott time: 2016-3-21 10:06:59

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 06:21
And all of them with skills like "400% damage on whole enemy team. Stun enemy team 3 turns. Own te ...

That will only increase the amount of Paid players striving to get those OP character.
The only way to get that as true F2P is to make it similar to a CSB or HME partner.

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2016-3-21 12:33:21

SeiryuSky replied at 2016-3-21 09:28
#I MEAN

#http://unlimitedninja.wikia.com/wiki/Reanimated_Hiruzen

Well it is not that different in this game... We have really strong berserker renji who is/was total wimp in anime and on the other hand we have demon ichigo,yamamoto/ ressurection ulquiora with sub-par stats/skill/growth rates...

author: Suzuken time: 2016-3-21 12:45:26

From how I see it, nothing has changed from this version of the game 1 year ago.
We are just jumping from an era to another while balancing shit out (they are trying at least)
After the zero div we got shinso, cute orihime, yama for free while the vip got the upgraded version of those.
Like I said nothing has changed and nothing will.
Vip will always get the best partner and f2p will get the old partners for free.
They are most likely to add the bikine girls in a new update for f2p to get after some point.
+10 for vip and +1 f2p.
That's how this game has been running all this time.

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2016-3-21 16:18:58

Problem is that this p2w system largely benefits only those who can afford to buy basically anything. Most lower vip (1-9) or even vip 10 from the old days over a year back who dont plan to top up large amounts anymore are being screwed over every passing day. I paid like 12k gold for shinso in joint task and now ppl can get it for free while I am stuck without any real possibility to power up which would differ from f2p people. I might get a bit more stuff from events like thanksgiving but few lvl 8+ stones arent anything special when i need atleast lvl 9 for the main ones to upgrade and high lvl hogu is useless when I dont get 300+ talismans to level it properly.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-3-21 17:40:34

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author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-21 17:46:06

protbott replied at 2016-3-21 10:06
That will only increase the amount of Paid players striving to get those OP character.
The only wa ...

What part of my comment made you think I want f2p's to be able to get partners like that? That would absolutely ruin this game if people could get someone that OP for free. Things like that should be 100% exclusive to VIP players.

author: Mojito1985 time: 2016-3-21 17:51:34

well i dont mind paying for a game, i am still here sooo, however i must agree the prices are to high, who is gonna pay 1000 euro's if not more for a good character, i mean 100 euro's whould be great, i whould never in my life pay such a high price for just a single character, unless if i win the lottery tommorow and i have nothing else to do anymore, or if i was a morron and ask my parents credit card and get grounded for the rest of my life and the next one aswell LOL

author: Mojito1985 time: 2016-3-21 17:54:00

i mean you can pay less for a poker game and atleast you can win something if you play good, here you spend your entire salary, you are fine for a month, then another charachter comes and you are still screwed

author: protbott time: 2016-3-21 18:41:37

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 17:46
What part of my comment made you think I want f2p's to be able to get partners like that? That wou ...

True it won't be fun if it was free.
Although as a paid player my highest would be VIP 8.
Unlike you guys on VIP 10- 15 ETC.

author: protbott time: 2016-3-21 18:49:09

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 17:46
What part of my comment made you think I want f2p's to be able to get partners like that? That wou ...

If anyone here has played Monkey King Online.
From the 1st time it came out it was great, getting over a million gamer and was top MMO.
Was the coolest and i spent long hours and Cash on that came.

But as of last year when i happen to see an advertisement of the game it reminded me of my account, so i tried going on. It was still online but i was the only one on the game for about an hour before i saw someone else.
When it 1st came out i was so packed with player there wasn't any space to farm or pray but now its empty. Bleach is only surviving cause of its fan base. If a better/more interesting version comes out this place will be a desert.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-21 19:15:44

protbott replied at 2016-3-21 18:49
If anyone here has played Monkey King Online.
From the 1st time it came out it was great, getting ...

In fact I have played Monkey King Online a month or 2 after it came out. Played it for 2 days then dumped it. Was just way too generic and didn't have anything special about it.

author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-3-21 20:01:09

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 19:15
In fact I have played Monkey King Online a month or 2 after it came out. Played it for 2 days then ...

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-3-21 20:07:22

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author: Shadow49999 time: 2016-3-21 20:15:26

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 20:07

author: grimmjowpantera time: 2016-3-21 20:17:22

my opinion. want a complete free to play game? warframe. ever since DE sold them selves to the chinese you can honestly farm your ass off for free shit. only once have i put $20 in there just for frame slots. honestly. only reason someone should put money on warframe is just the frame and weapon slots. but i would warn ya. ever since thye did sell them selves. they have been on a ban roll with anyone who talks trash about the game or its youtubers like AGGP who disobeyed the rules trying to sell parts that werent even out yet and only could get them through a glitch. like seriously. he should be banned not Rev. lol. warframe comut. is hell at the moment.

author: protbott time: 2016-3-22 03:21:54

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-3-21 19:15
In fact I have played Monkey King Online a month or 2 after it came out. Played it for 2 days then ...

Lmao i get.
But i liked it cause of the population and friend introduced it to me before we all became too busy to play.
We played alot of games simultaneously but i liked Monkey King cause of its Huge Gamers Volume.
It made it very competitive.

I still play games like Shadow Gun Deadzone cause its fun and all comes down to skill and not so much cash , you can buy lots of boost and all but a nood with a sniper can just OneShot you and its all wasted.

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