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author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 08:20:08 Title: God-Vang tips

So, when my Shinso expired I spent about 2 hours redoing my party again and again and again trying different things and came to a conclusion... with almost 500k BP, Hyorinmaru, a socketed 110 inferno set of equipment, T1, full spirit forged set of level 100 accessories, level 50 minizuki mod soul, best hollow soul stuff, best stones, and so on... my Soph could not be described as a god-vang IMO, even with Cute Orihime as a support to boost that block at attack. She was for sure grizzly, but wasn't just OP like I see from others.

I am not looking to build a god-vang as it's just not my focus. Some people are tho, what are some tips for one? What makes a God-Vang? I'm sure higher block than what I can get would help (mine tops out around 85%) More attack of course is always nice. I stacked speed on mine to get her skilling as quick as I could. Like does the average player have to sacrifice their assaulters totally basically to get the needed stones?

author: shadarlo time: 2016-4-7 08:32:09

Yes, you can't have moderately strong or strong Assaulters and a god vang unless you are rich beyond belief and can give them all lvl 12 stones.

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-7 08:34:54

You have to focus on one of these following points to have a "God" Vanguard.
1- Over cap block Rate t0 120%+ and the best vanguard for the job is Nozarashi since his block rate can go over 140%+ which makes him A huge source of damage.
2- Hp and Def, you pretty much have to use all the good shit on the vang from the treasure, stones, Hollow map points, Cultivate bonus, accessories to the gear, the vanguard that get the best use of this build is Ichibe
3- Critical rate with High damage and HP, the other way to get decent vanguard is by making him tough enough to survive Til he uses his skill, any vanguards can easily Kill it with this build
4- T1 vanguard with heavy support build, IMO this build is the best for Soph, Her skill damage is kinda bad, she needs lots of stones so putting crit on her would be a waste so T1 her and focus all the dmg on support and all the hp on her.
Now, This is just a basic calculation, if you take in count the opponent having T1 like hiki the situation will be completely different and most of these builds will fail badly, esp the damage type tank due to lack of speed, and rangiku is a defensive type tank that lacks a shit ton of speed so having agi stones on her is a complete waste, For a medium spender that is quite a bad move to make, erase the idea of having a "god" vanguard unless you plan on getting a better vanguard, Rangiku has already fallen below the "god" line.
Without further blablaing, IF you want my oppinion Go with Heaving HP and def stacking, Make her T1 if possible and focus your damage on support, Though you don't really have good support.... Tenjiro is just RNG and orihime will fail you because she's so slow.
IDK your formation is quite Awkward without shinso mm.....

author: Dotiie time: 2016-4-7 08:35:48

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-4-7 13:38

Well first up it's your partner, im sure you've heard all of the complaints about her personally directed to you, and im sure you backed her up too. ive even seen those comments here on the forums, particularly from top tier players and free to plays too
but unfortunately your beloved soph rang simply doesn't have the kit to become this god vang, she is just sustain for your team. Her dealing high damage or having great block damage etc. is just what you modified, at possibly a heavy price too, much harder to do on her than other partners

god list includes: nozarashi, starrk, ichibe, sexy kukkaku, possibly even ryuumon ikkaku, tsi, demon and possibly h.ichigo

Each of these people are equipped to lead into that 'god' mode, they don't need heavy modifications on what you did you soph rang, even starrk, just stones can be required and you're done. honestly you may love soph rang as one of your fav partners, but it isnt helping when you want a 'god' vanguard

PS: free 2 play people have better vanguards from the screenshots you've posted, and well they are free 2 play, take note, they are using what they have for free and are doing better, chances are they have worse stones too

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 08:40:55

Suzuken replied at 2016-4-7 08:34
You have to focus on one of these following points to have a "God" Vanguard.
1- Over cap block Rate ...

yeah.. that is what I was thinking.. maybe i'll try again when I get Noza

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 08:42:47

Dotiie replied at 2016-4-7 08:35
Well first up it's your partner, im sure you've heard all of the complaints about her personally dir ...

yeah... I'm about done with Soph TBH. saving for HMA Kenny... almost have first form. Soph DOES have good points, and for first half of Hollow souls map she was my 1v1 king... however, she is like a level 100 Chad... running out of rope, lol

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-7 08:44:04

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-7 16:40
yeah.. that is what I was thinking.. maybe i'll try again when I get Noza

You need Res Ulq for him, he can easily break the cap with his 2nd mod so even w/o ulq he would be a huge help. If you are going for noza then prepare some block stones

author: Dotiie time: 2016-4-7 08:47:28

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-7 13:42
yeah... I'm about done with Soph TBH. saving for HMA Kenny... almost have first form. Soph DOE ...

lvl 100 chad? this is absurd with his relativeness
#R.I.P Zento

good to know you are moving away from her
you hopefully turn to that point of not being compared to a free 2 play player and just boost away with that noza and hyorinmaru, alongside his fortify you should be very good with him

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 08:50:18

Suzuken replied at 2016-4-7 08:44
You need Res Ulq for him, he can easily break the cap with his 2nd mod so even w/o ulq he would be ...

does it have to be res ulq? or will shin ulq work?

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-7 08:51:31

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-7 16:50
does it have to be res ulq? or will shin ulq work?

Res, According to my mate in the server that is.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 08:52:48

Dotiie replied at 2016-4-7 08:47
lvl 100 chad? this is absurd with his relativeness
#R.I.P Zento

have a few sub level 120 people in my server using hma Kenny (first form) while I understand he is worse than noza by far, but is he a viable partner before upgrade?

author: Dotiie time: 2016-4-7 08:56:55

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-7 13:52
have a few sub level 120 people in my server using hma Kenny (first form) while I understand he is ...

his skill is still good as first form
but for the more defensive route (nozarashi takes a while to get btw), i'd say stick to soph rang when you have shin shura, or swap out for h.ichigo for the time being (most people use h.ichigo for a placeholder) as he is just the defensive shin shura

but since you use hyorinmaru, having shin shura in your form permanently could be fine, especially with what you detailed to have on your current vg, you'll just have to see when you get him, but as a partner alone hes do-able in first form

author: [email protected] time: 2016-4-7 08:57:37

before u think about make vang make sure u hv senbon or hyorin

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-4-7 09:09:23

The >easiest< and cheapest way to a God VG would be:

Noza + Ulq bond.
Level 10 or higher Str, Wis, Stam stones.
Max block, break, crit and counter.
3 Level 8 hit stones or higher.
Level 9 or higher hogu's
Weapon Infuse depends on what you want personally and if someone stuns you
Hyorinmaru which you already use/own at level 50 or higher zanpakuto fortify

author: warlock8 time: 2016-4-7 09:31:19

dude why all your posts too long, im not read retarded but just sayin.
for your question, (i answer generally, i dont know your current setup)
1- i think most commonly seen mistake is not putting any hit stone on vanguard. two good hit stone should do work, you dont wanna miss your skill.
2- do not over stack counter on vanguards since most partners dont have that much crit and your other partners need counter too, you can replace 2 counter stones with others (4counter not 6 for example)
3-you can do soul cultivation for your vg after you done with your dps character. i think its necessary and dont want to explain why it could be another topic.
4-there is 2 kind of set for vg. one with high stamina and other with high phy-kido def low stamina some partners like komadog got more benefit from high def one.
5-and last one for new starters, if you want a good vanguard oriented team you can go with kido main it helps your vg alot.

there is other things too but you probably know it or people mention it before

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-4-7 09:43:00

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author: warlock8 time: 2016-4-7 09:44:09

im saying there is over %90 counter rate vg's in my server and highest crit rate like %50-55 currently.

author: shadarlo time: 2016-4-7 09:47:57

Dotiie replied at 2016-4-7 08:56
his skill is still good as first form
but for the more defensive route (nozarashi takes a while to ...

Maybe not for god VG, but for every other formation Soph is dramatically better than H.Ichigo, IMO.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-4-7 09:51:59

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author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 09:52:17

warlock8 replied at 2016-4-7 09:31
dude why all your posts too long, im not read retarded but just sayin.
for your question, (i answer ...

first off, thanks for the info. second... I don't understand why people bitch about my posts being long... you don't wanna read it, click the back button and escape, lol

author: Dotiie time: 2016-4-7 09:57:54

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-4-7 14:52
first off, thanks for the info. second... I don't understand why people bitch about my posts bei ...

I remember zento complaining on this
was it not due to unnecessary information he said? or something about leaving it to us to do it for you
one of those 2

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-4-7 10:09:52

Dotiie replied at 2016-4-7 09:57
I remember zento complaining on this
was it not due to unnecessary information he said? or somethi ...

yeah, the main reason I do it is because when most people ask for help they say something like... "should I get this partner or that one?" and they get 20 posts saying "we need more info to tell you" lol problem solved XD

author: YukiSanada21 time: 2016-10-31 04:41:25

im lvl 93 and im stuck having to buy a 2nd vang from tavern for HMA, cana nyone please tell me how to do better cuz im using full infused lvl 80 gear sets

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