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author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 06:31:30 Title: Decreasing own bp to minimum(How to pass Ultima's bond with Nell)

Edited by Double3 at 2016-8-14 10:59

Are there any other way to decrease own stats to minimum,besides:1.Removing equipment                      5.Changing mod soul to the 1st one
                                                                                                      2.Removing accesories                      6.Removing assist mod soul
                                                                                                      3.Removing hogu                            7.Exchange soul map with other partener who doesnt have it
                                                                                                      4.Removing hogyoku                         8.Reincarnating that partener to lose exp,thus losing some stats(?)

Am i missing something?will apreciate any help

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-8-14 06:39:53

Guessing you forgot to mention zanpakuto, but that's about it ya

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 06:50:17

Oh damn,guess i'll have a "hard" time getting Ultima's bond with Nell

author: tytheboy time: 2016-8-14 06:58:42

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 06:50
Oh damn,guess i'll have a "hard" time getting Ultima's bond with Nell

what do you mean?
you are too op to do one of the bond stages?

author: meat0020 time: 2016-8-14 07:08:43

what's your point to decrease BP to minimum?

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 07:17:20

Utlima's bond with Nell that give+15% speed,requires total hp less than 50%
And the thing is that 1st round Ultima 1shot enemy vg,and 2nd 1shot whole team
And that's with lowest possible bp for me.
Hoping that will make it with enough "misses",but i dont know how much dodge enemy team has

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 07:19:41

Oh,found another thing that can lower bp,title

author: gogeta654321 time: 2016-8-14 07:43:43

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 17:17
Utlima's bond with Nell that give+15% speed,requires total hp less than 50%
And the thing is that 1s ...

remove the hit stones lol, he wont even touch them

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 08:09:17

Edited by Double3 at 2016-8-14 08:10

gogeta654321 replied at 2016-8-14 07:43
remove the hit stones lol, he wont even touch them

[attach]16105[/attach]
does it look like this ultima has even something on him?
the problem is that i did evolution/exclusive skill with Shin Aizen,needed that for pvp t1
and now it results in too much def,and in best outcome ultima's hp is at 99.8%
which also means that in order for me to pass that stage i need main to have 0.01%hp,pretty funny aint it?

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-8-14 08:55:13

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author: theunknown404 time: 2016-8-14 09:21:04

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 07:17
Utlima's bond with Nell that give+15% speed,requires total hp less than 50%
And the thing is that 1s ...

Another way to do it is

Ultima is naked and main has best tanky gear without T1 (or with T1 if you can't one-shot them).
Your main attacks without killing them all, Ultima gets killed by enemy and main survives. You then have to kill them with your main character.

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 09:45:40

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-8-14 08:55
see that's your prob not having pure t1 your Ultima is now nfected with casualness soo sad he was s ...

true it's a hard case,but i'm not willing to give up on that +15% agi ^^
would've been happier to read this comment if it actually had some kind of strategy also

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 09:47:34

theunknown404 replied at 2016-8-14 09:21
Another way to do it is

Ultima is naked and main has best tanky gear without T1 (or with T1 if yo ...

ultima is already naken in that screen-shot that i posted,+the problem is that Ultima simply cant get his hp lower than 99.99% from enemy's basic/skill attacks.

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 09:50:32

My guildmate,who also buffed Ultima b4(same lvl as mine,maybe even higher) doing bond with Nell passed it somehow.
So i'm definitely not going to give it up,there must be a way to clear this bond.

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-8-14 09:58:55

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 09:50
My guildmate,who also buffed Ultima b4(same lvl as mine,maybe even higher) doing bond with Nell pass ...

It probably would have helped if you didn't modify him just yet. Defense, HP, and immune rate. Especially the defense.

It's still possible to try to inherit them.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2016-8-14 09:59:17

Best thing would to be to weaken both your main and Aizen if you aren't doing that already. Doing the bond stages when a supporter needs to be low HP will be hard if you main is protecting Aizen from normal hits. The "Less than 50% HP" just means for Aizen, so let main die so the enemy can hit on Aizen more.

author: SilverDragon72 time: 2016-8-14 10:03:04

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 09:45
true it's a hard case,but i'm not willing to give up on that +15% agi ^^
would've been happier to ...

Just buff the rest of your team's HP. I can't read it all but I think it says is no more than 50% of total team's HP.

So you can start the round with Ultima having less than 50% HP than the rest of the team.

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:03:30

theunknown404 replied at 2016-8-14 09:58
It probably would have helped if you didn't modify him just yet. Defense, HP, and immune rate. Esp ...

i'm f2p,cant top-up from my coutry,so idk about inherit,but will take that into consideration for last weapon

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:04:27

mayuri1177 replied at 2016-8-14 09:59
Best thing would to be to weaken both your main and Aizen if you aren't doing that already. Doing t ...

Main die=no bond,tried that strategy already
currently working on other but idk if will be any diferent

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:05:56

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-8-14 10:03
Just buff the rest of your team's HP. I can't read it all but I think it says is no more than 50% ...

no matter what hp they have,ultima's hp is 100%,main is 100%,and the requirement is no more than 50% of total hp team,meaning both should go under 75%,or something on that ratio

author: Glowing time: 2016-8-14 10:06:52

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 16:04
Main die=no bond,tried that strategy already
currently working on other but idk if will be any dif ...

Have you removed your zanpakuto? Can't have zan when doing bond

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:08:45

Glowing replied at 2016-8-14 10:06
Have you removed your zanpakuto? Can't have zan when doing bond

i have removed not only zanpakuto,but everything that is removable in game ^^

author: mayuri1177 time: 2016-8-14 10:10:05

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 10:04
Main die=no bond,tried that strategy already
currently working on other but idk if will be any dif ...

After the main dies, Aizen needs to have less than 50% of his health left. So if Aizen has 500k HP, he would need to have lower than 250K HP when the battle ends. Having Aizen with low HP is what you need, the requirement, doesn't care about the HP of you main.

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:13:50

mayuri1177 replied at 2016-8-14 10:10
After the main dies, Aizen needs to have less than 50% of his health left. So if Aizen has 500k H ...

true,now if i remember the problem why i cant finish this stage is because aizen is too damn op w/o anything on him,the minimum hp that he will have after receiving 20 rounds of damage from minions is 99.98%

author: SilverDragon72 time: 2016-8-14 10:22:39

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 10:05
no matter what hp they have,ultima's hp is 100%,main is 100%,and the requirement is no more than 50 ...

Okay, then leave gear on that maximizes hp but has minimal def so you can take damage.

You may have to remove stones from gear to accomplish this.

Lower atk, hit rate, block, counter and defense but boost stamina/hp.

Does it say if you can only have main and Ultima in formation? Cause if not, put some sacrificial partners in formation to die but give them a boost in hp.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2016-8-14 10:25:23

There is one more thing you could do. You could do Inherit for mods to strip him of all mods. The 3 mods he has now are all defensive type mods(hp, def and avoid injury). If you don't mind regressing on the mods, that would be the last thing to try. I don't think I would do that though.

author: SilverDragon72 time: 2016-8-14 10:30:48

mayuri1177 replied at 2016-8-14 10:25
There is one more thing you could do. You could do Inherit for mods to strip him of all mods. The ...

If you go that route, it is better to do it sooner rather than later... Take the hit early and it is less painful.

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:33:09

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-8-14 10:22
Okay, then leave gear on that maximizes hp but has minimal def so you can take damage.

You may ha ...

It wont work.
There's 1 thing that i'm trying to play with
1 minion has death-skill chaos on my whole team,so if i can 1shot my main and make ultima hit himself hard enough then i might clear it,but then again main dies so i'm not too sure about this 1

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:34:13

mayuri1177 replied at 2016-8-14 10:25
There is one more thing you could do. You could do Inherit for mods to strip him of all mods. The ...

I certainly do mind on reseting my mods,as f2p it took me a whole lot of time getting mod3,and quite close to mod4,i wont reset them xD
but i will try to reset exclusive skill

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:43:24

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 10:33
It wont work.
There's 1 thing that i'm trying to play with
1 minion has death-skill chaos on my wh ...

YAY,my teory did indeed work

got that bond with Nell
#FeelsGoodMan

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:52:37

So for those who did same mistake as me
these are my stats with main and Ultima
[attach]16107[/attach]
[attach]16108[/attach]
no hit/counter/hp stones
max crit rate and wis(str on main if phy type)
also no soul map
try to put more hogyoku dmg type in both of them,since they dont increase def as well
and the theory is the following:
1)Ultima goes 1st 1shot enemy vg
2)Main 2nd 1shot enemy asS
3)enemy goes and deal crap dmg on main
4)Ultima skill and kill only top support,the other one with no death skill must be alive!!!
5)main is in chaos after death skill from top support,and 1shot himself(here\s where max crit rate is usefull)
6)enemy support left alive skill and deal crap dmg to main again
7)Ultima also in chaos atck himself and deals more than 50%hp,and does not 1shot himself
8)enemy support attack
9)Ultima kill enemy support
DONE

author: SilverDragon72 time: 2016-8-14 10:53:16

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 10:43
YAY,my teory did indeed work
got that bond with Nell
#FeelsGoodMan

All you man... All You...

Glad it worked out.

author: SilverDragon72 time: 2016-8-14 10:54:05

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 10:34
I certainly do mind on reseting my mods,as f2p it took me a whole lot of time getting mod3,and qui ...

How did you get Ultima has a f2p? Doesn't he require a VIP rank to get?

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 10:56:54

SilverDragon72 replied at 2016-8-14 10:54
How did you get Ultima has a f2p? Doesn't he require a VIP rank to get?

this is my 2nd acc,guildie quit playing and he did already top-up for vip6(almost 1.5 year ago)
and not willing to waste the potential in this acocunt gave me info

author: theunknown404 time: 2016-8-14 12:15:34

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 10:03
i'm f2p,cant top-up from my coutry,so idk about inherit,but will take that into consideration for ...

How did you get Ultima Aizen if you are f2p?

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 12:25:02

Edited by Double3 at 2016-8-14 12:27

theunknown404 replied at 2016-8-14 12:15
How did you get Ultima Aizen if you are f2p?

The guy above you asked same question

W/e,a guy top-up on this acc ~1.5 year ago,but had to quit
So he gave me this acc,not to waste his potentialyou can consider it pure f2p,he didnt even top up for fury stones
idk what for he did top up for,but everything in that acc are pure f2p things(except ultima/noza)

author: Dotiie time: 2016-8-14 12:36:08

Edited by Dotiie at 2016-8-14 17:39

Double3 replied at 2016-8-14 17:25
The guy above you asked same question
W/e,a guy top-up on this acc ~1.5 year ago,but had to quit ...

Prop spent like a dude in my server, VIP 9 nothing that great, I guess he spent all his gold in lvl 80 sets and low tier chars
also the acc already had 2 owners after the "genius"

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 12:50:48

Dotiie replied at 2016-8-14 12:36
Prop spent like a dude in my server, VIP 9 nothing that great, I guess he spent all his gold in lvl ...

eh well,we cant compare things u could've got when game started and the things u can get now for the same price along with lots of benefits

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-8-14 13:09:09

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author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 13:44:07

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-8-14 13:09
well technically to lower bp you could reincarnate x2 but that would give you the damage boost but ...

umm.....ty for help,but right at top of this page is how i cleared this bond

author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 14:22:47

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-8-14 13:09
well technically to lower bp you could reincarnate x2 but that would give you the damage boost but ...

and btw,to max ultima's agi bond u will need 150k+ fragments,with 90k reached only 22 point

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-8-14 14:28:10

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author: Double3 time: 2016-8-14 14:31:29

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-8-14 14:28
dam even more than I thought that's at least 8 or 9 more months for me

for f2p's everything is worth doing

author: sacsuka time: 2016-8-29 02:41:21

If my main is die during the battle is problem?

author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-12-8 02:24:03

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