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author: ibromvlieg time: 2015-1-10 20:31:10 Title: pantera grimmjow

at battle preview i found him good, so i went for it to get him.
and once i got him upgraded. and used him he was a utter disappointment. bp went down by ALOT damage went down by ALOT, and wasted alot of things.
over 4k gold reishi in epic xp books to get him to my lvl ''106'' ALOT of soul hunt stars, and 1k vit i was saving to get a new lvl set since he was a spirit blade user, and didn't have that weapon.
but ah well, i love experimenting

but in my eyes he's not worth it, for me. it was a utter disappointment, not worthy of the effort i gave him, it was just bad... but...... nothing to do about that now

also not telling u should not go for him, if u want him go for it hihi. but in my eyes not worth it.

are there, any other partners in swp, that is worth the time and effort and such to get.....?
at the moment im going for nozarashi kenpachi as a vanguard.
but ill change my sajin for hollow ichigo first once im lvl 110.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-10 20:40:43

Why is he not worth it? 200% every turn seems rather good for PvE events. Pretty sure he is one of the higher damage dealers in the game for that, since any extra fury just gets turned into +% damage anyway.

Kenpachi is worth it if you don't have Toshiro ( Toshiro and Kenpachi's main strength is the innate stun chance ), Aizen is by far one of the best characters in the game. There is not a lineup that you couldn't put him in and get a upgrade to your team.

Most of the rest of them are situation. Ulquiorra is a great damage dealer ( and is likely to get much more popular as new PvE content comes out... in UN Dot's are about the only way you can get past certain content, as they are not subject to defense reduction ). Nel has some seriously nasty debuffs, but needs a team to work around with her. Toshiro can permanently lock down assaulters if you do him right. Renji's 2nd skill is nothing to snooze at either, though at that point I would rather just have CSB Byakuya I suppose.

author: seremz2 time: 2015-1-10 20:43:40

Might as well get shura kenpachi to use that weapon then

Fortunately i'm aimin for ulquiorra, he might help me past stark hopefully

author: Theories time: 2015-1-10 20:47:59

On paper he seems really solid. Who did you try to replace to try and make him fit?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-10 21:00:22

bp is not everything, i have experimented many a times and found that, bp increases say even if u add a dodge stone on a support, that doesnt mean you will attack more.

reg grimmjow, after mod 2, you need only 40fury on him say 4 lvl 5 fury stones and he will start with fury. best for pve atleast if not pvp. only very rare vgs are immune to anti-recovery. but then i dt have him hence i cant say anything for sure

author: ibromvlieg time: 2015-1-10 21:04:08

Theories replied at 2015-1-11 02:47
On paper he seems really solid. Who did you try to replace to try and make him fit?

i tried to compare his damage to kenpachi and ikaku from tavern. while grimmjow had a lvl 100 set fully forged. while ikaku and kenpachi only had a lvl 90 set fully forged, both sets fully. infused. my bp dropped 20-25k when i changed either of the 2 for pantera grimmjow, ofcourse while changing the Assaulter i changed literally everything i could for max damage and such. but outcome was, less damage, less battlepower, and less hp. it was at the point of it being a big joke. though both ikaku and kenpachi are 4th star modified, while pantera grimmjow wasn't even modified once, because recently released. only getting 3 of him a day, while i needed 271 to modify (91 days for me)... and only getting the 1st modify was 8% damage. so i switched back to kenpachi as Assaulter partner.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-10 21:19:30

That is a shame. I don't know why that would be the case. Grimjow should be better then both Ikkaku and Kenpachi once upgraded.

author: watman time: 2015-1-10 21:21:56

Edited by watman at 2015-1-10 20:23

ibromvlieg replied at 2015-1-10 20:04
i tried to compare his damage to kenpachi and ikaku from tavern. while grimmjow had a lvl 100 set ...

I'm not quite clear on your gear sets

90 set fully forged, fully infused

vs

100 set fully forged, not infused?

As with any gear, fully infused gear is going to be much stronger than even the next level gear ~half infused.

Please post damages you get from Ryoka or Evil Spirit using the Same gear ^^

Obviously one will be using a Spirit blade, and the others manic/ghost. But when fully infused, the +atk for each weapon are pretty much the same.
20 levels of infusion make a big difference in damage.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-10 21:26:26

ibromvlieg replied at 2015-1-11 06:04
i tried to compare his damage to kenpachi and ikaku from tavern. while grimmjow had a lvl 100 set ...

can you do one test, get ken to lvl as same as ur grimm. then put the same gear on both of them for ES in your team, and let us know which partner gives more damage in totality to the team.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-10 21:26:59

cos i am not sure how much spirit infused are ur lvl 90 and 100, a lvl 20 spirit infused lvl 90 gear > lvl 1 spirit infused lvl 100 gear

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-10 21:54:10

Hmmm... i hav tried normal grim... n he does more dmg then kenpachi..

So i m using him for ES...

Cant upgrade him yet bcoz it needs lvl 100 req...

Will test if he realli does less dmg...

N yeah... bp doesnt says much at times... n sometimes due to crits ur

Dmg will fluctuate...

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-10 22:28:38

watman replied at 2015-1-11 10:21
I'm not quite clear on your gear sets

90 set fully forged, fully infused

both sets fully. infused.

author: Leitzur time: 2015-1-10 22:29:32

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-10 20:54
Hmmm... i hav tried normal grim... n he does more dmg then kenpachi..

So i m using him for ES...

you mean grimmjow have to reach lv100 before we can upgrade him?

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-10 22:43:11

Leitzur replied at 2015-1-10 21:29
you mean grimmjow have to reach lv100 before we can upgrade him?

Ur main id should b lvl 100 if not mistaken...

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-10 22:57:52

Well dunno i gonna get all the stuff that i need to use Grimmjow "

antera" in hopefully 10 days because i want to try him with almost the same lv as Ken-chan, the same set and all his stuff to see by myself if he really worth or i gonna offer an apology to watman (im right??)

for saying that he have better average dmg than Sexy Yoru but just wait till i can get all the stuff i need to make an fair comparation

author: ksjkb96 time: 2015-1-10 23:02:06

i think grimmjow is great for pve

..i get him and i don't regret

..i get more damage and kills after i using him

author: watman time: 2015-1-10 23:13:11

Edited by watman at 2015-1-10 22:15

nieverland replied at 2015-1-10 21:57
Well dunno i gonna get all the stuff that i need to use Grimmjow "Pantera" in hopefully 10 days beca ...

I'm waiting for the concrete numbers.

I wish you'd get Pantera in 4 days, because Sexy Yoru is coming again!

Need to know whether I should recruit or not!
Isshin - Main - Sexy Yoru
D Rukia - Shinsoo Gin
Sogyo no Kotowari

That's my goal PvE formation ^^

author: nieverland time: 2015-1-11 00:48:13

Edited by nieverland at 2015-1-10 23:53

watman replied at 2015-1-10 22:13
I'm waiting for the concrete numbers.

I wish you'd get Pantera in 4 days, because Sexy Yoru is com ...

well the only way i can get Sexy Yoru is at UBP so i guess i cant try her and well i still need 7 more days to get all the coupons and maybe 3 more to get enought exp scrolls to do an fair comparation, but well lets see

IMO if you can buy Sexy Yoru she is a nice option as the things goes now only CSB Ken-chan is better than her at pve

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-11 02:37:23

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-1-11 03:37

nieverland replied at 2015-1-10 23:48
well the only way i can get Sexy Yoru is at UBP so i guess i cant try her and well i still need 7 m ...

If panterra doesn't get extra turns, obviously it's going to do less dmg than kenpachi or ikkaku.

It works for me because I can get extra turns.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-1-11 03:29:09

one gets grimm mainly for the skill attack and mainly for him to use it every round, if otherwise then its under-utilizing him

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-1-11 05:06:46

I'm assuming his debuff didn't work either?

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-11 09:10:17

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-11 01:37
If panterra doesn't get extra turns, obviously it's going to do less dmg than kenpachi or ikkaku.

...

of coz... u got papa isshin...

but witout isshin... grim still rocks...

waitin to upgrade him... just a lil more till lvl 100... hics...

then can test him out...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-11 09:27:06

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-11 08:10
of coz... u got papa isshin...

but witout isshin... grim still rocks...

90/150 frags, I don't have a spiritblade weapon for him xD
mugetsu ichigo, that's the last partner I want

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-11 09:58:14

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-11 08:27
90/150 frags, I don't have a spiritblade weapon for him xD
mugetsu ichigo, that's the last partner ...

ermmm u should hav a spare weapon... since u r spirit blade user...

hmmmmm...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-11 10:08:10

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-11 08:58
ermmm u should hav a spare weapon... since u r spirit blade user...

hmmmmm...

no spare weapons at all, i'd need 100 ulti or flame set xD

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-11 10:09:38

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-11 09:08
no spare weapons at all, i'd need 100 ulti or flame set xD

dang... u should keep old gears... just in case u know... at least somethin to use for the time bein...

while u make a better 1... rather than no weapon or gears to use at all...

hics...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-11 10:26:38

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-11 09:09
dang... u should keep old gears... just in case u know... at least somethin to use for the time b ...

I spent 14 green stones and still didn't get a psychic enchant

author: mankis time: 2015-1-11 12:10:23

Reason why grim sucks is his talent 20% dmg rate is usless for him since he skills all the time and dmg rate only inc the dmg of normal atks not skills so prety damn stupid...

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-11 12:20:04

mankis replied at 2015-1-11 11:10
Reason why grim sucks is his talent 20% dmg rate is usless for him since he skills all the time and ...

DMG rate effects skills too. Not sure what you are getting at...

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-11 14:34:55

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-11 09:26
I spent 14 green stones and still didn't get a psychic enchant

lol... u dun wanna know how many green stones hav i thrown into the great blue sea bro...

n i am still tryin...

author: watman time: 2015-1-11 14:42:25

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-11 13:44
im 1 fury away from turn 1 fury, i'm resorting to white stones to get psychcih enchant now

Spend 880 for a stone pack; last resort

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-11 14:44:55

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-11 13:34
lol... u dun wanna know how many green stones hav i thrown into the great blue sea bro...

n i am ...

im 1 fury away from turn 1 fury, i'm resorting to white stones to get psychcih enchant now

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-12 14:57:54

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-11 13:44
im 1 fury away from turn 1 fury, i'm resorting to white stones to get psychcih enchant now

y white ? when u can hav green ?

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-1-12 17:08:56

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-12 13:57
y white ? when u can hav green ?

green is more expensive, and I litterally only need 1 fury, but I decided to save coupons now instead after the 7+ failed attempts.

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-1-13 01:28:50

lol... u hav no idea how many green stones i failed tryin to get tht 1 x 4 fury....

7 failed attempts is consider lucky...

author: [email protected] time: 2015-1-15 15:47:50

Don't forget the modify partner stars accounts for a big portion of your battle power, starting him in fresh with no mods will do that.

author: essamelshamy time: 2015-1-16 10:57:12

ibromvlieg replied at 2015-1-11 04:04
i tried to compare his damage to kenpachi and ikaku from tavern. while grimmjow had a lvl 100 set ...

are u using exchange all option when u replace him with ikkaku or kenpachi . if you are doing this then u shud know exchange all option doesnt exchange hogyoku . it appeares to you that its exchanged but if u refresh u will find that hogyoku doesnt exchanged and you will need to set it manually so this maybe the reason of bp decreases can u please try and tell me ?

author: essamelshamy time: 2015-1-16 11:00:53

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-13 08:28
lol... u hav no idea how many green stones i failed tryin to get tht 1 x 4 fury....

7 failed atte ...

i spent 47 stone and failed

author: ibromvlieg time: 2015-1-16 12:22:27

essamelshamy replied at 2015-1-16 16:57
are u using exchange all option when u replace him with ikkaku or kenpachi . if you are doing this ...

i always do exchange all and when im done with that, i restart browser and then switch the hogyoku manually. so no mistakes in that. it's just that i modified both ikaku and kenpachi, so far. so if i modify 1st stage of pantera grimmjow he'll be better then both of them. but by that time i'll have modofied both of them max already, so yeah. no changes at all. as of now still using kenpachi since damage does better in evil/ryoka. also not using pantera grimmjow for pvp such as csb... since using him i beat 1 less then i normally do. so also no changes in my eyes just a wasted of time/effort to get pantera grimmjow.

author: essamelshamy time: 2015-1-17 13:01:31

ibromvlieg replied at 2015-1-16 19:22
i always do exchange all and when im done with that, i restart browser and then switch the hogyoku ...

okay thanks for telling us so i guess i wont bother upgrade him and focus on uliquiora instead .

author: gogeta654321 time: 2015-8-27 03:38:18

C'mon you are going for ulquiorra even if he is in his released form he doesnt much then main charaacter does(except the ignite thing). Grimmjow is far better than ulq in eeither pvp or pve IMO.

author: curls77 time: 2015-8-27 03:46:42

gogeta654321 replied at 2015-8-27 11:38
C'mon you are going for ulquiorra even if he is in his released form he doesnt much then main charaa ...

You don't know a lot of partners don't have the main growth rate no? but they have other skill stats

author: IREG33 time: 2015-8-27 05:18:12

pantera is a beast for pve ... b4 i used him i could only deal 10m dmg in ES, and now i can deal 13-16m

author: gogeta654321 time: 2015-9-8 04:24:35

curls77 replied at 2015-8-27 03:46
You don't know a lot of partners don't have the main growth rate no? but they have other skill sta ...

yes ur right.His growth rate is better than grimmjow but we are talking about skill and fury cuz grimmjow recovers it to 100 but he doesnt recover it. So basically every time skill use is far more better than using fury stones on ulquiorra.

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