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author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 07:28:33     Title: Kirinji VS oetsu

Guys who is better in terms of scalability??
kirinji or oetsu

since both of their mods are equally good

author: easymoney2906    time: 2017-9-24 07:29:25

Oetsu without a question.
author: SolKnight    time: 2017-9-24 07:32:12

Oetsu without a doubt
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 07:32:13

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-9-24 07:29
Oetsu without a question.

why is it? i dont find many valid reason

author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 07:33:41

this is my formation
author: easymoney2906    time: 2017-9-24 07:40:01

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 07:32
why is it? i dont find many valid reason

Oetsu has aoe attack and mutilate. Also he has halo speed modify. Tenjiro is faster then him, but he attacks 2 random enemy partners. Only way i see tenjiro more useful then oetsu is with his exclusive skill, but even then i think oetsu is way better.
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 07:46:40

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-9-24 07:40
Oetsu has aoe attack and mutilate. Also he has halo speed modify. Tenjiro is faster then him, but  ...

cool i had that idea thats y i am not getting shini agent to get kirnji and waiting for oetsu to some up in UBP or in event so that i can grab him by stacking enough gold from bankai power
author: easymoney2906    time: 2017-9-24 08:04:50

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 07:46
cool i had that idea thats y i am not getting shini agent to get kirnji and waiting for oetsu to s ...

Well with that team i think you should get shinigami agent. Senbon is shit zanpaktou for support line, with shinigami agent benefits you could make that Muken Aizen even better. Save vit for UBP, you can replace Yammamoto or Demon with something better. Also if you plan to keep Senbonzakura only good supporter that would fit you are Noble Isane, regular Isane. They can give assaulters strong buff.
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 08:41:01

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-9-24 08:04
Well with that team i think you should get shinigami agent. Senbon is shit zanpaktou for support l ...

u said evrything that i had in mind

author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 08:42:18

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-9-24 08:04
Well with that team i think you should get shinigami agent. Senbon is shit zanpaktou for support l ...

how does muken is benefitted from shinigami agent?
author: easymoney2906    time: 2017-9-24 08:47:42

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 08:42
how does muken is benefitted from shinigami agent?

If you complete whole bond map instead of getting 700 bond frags per day you will get 2.1k per day. You get also some red hogyoku fragments and hogyoku pill fragments. You can modify 7 partners in a day, also with shinigami agent you get 20 Kirinji fragments in day so you can even use him for inherit.
author: Aresiel    time: 2017-9-24 10:13:11

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 08:42
how does muken is benefitted from shinigami agent?

You clear CoM faster with one click mop up, you get 3x the bond fragments you normally would get and you get more modifying dojo chances to farm mod fragments faster.

Those are what I can name from the top of my head.
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 10:39:23

Aresiel replied at 2017-9-24 10:13
You clear CoM faster with one click mop up, you get 3x the bond fragments you normally would get a ...

my muken is fully modded and i dont have any partners to bond with muken either
author: Melkoe    time: 2017-9-24 11:08:34

i think oetsu is better coz he is hard tank slayer.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-9-24 11:29:41

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 08:41
u said evrything that i had in mind

don't forget, shiniso gin is dirt cheap these days in reio guardian (just over 3200 gold at most is my understanding) and he's so much better than kiuske it isn't even funny....  running senbon you will want a faster support, and shinso vs kiuske is an easy choice if you have the fury stones to do it...

FYI, after you get the 10 fury from evo and 8 from red stone weapon enchant, shinso only needs 64% from stones to be T1...  just food for thought
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 11:38:49

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-24 11:29
don't forget, shiniso gin is dirt cheap these days in reio guardian (just over 3200 gold at most i ...

so kirinji is faster than oetsu right? and shinso deosnt come in playshini lol
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2017-9-24 11:44:18

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 11:38
so kirinji is faster than oetsu right? and shinso deosnt come in playshini lol

kirinji is faster than Oetsu usually/always from what I've seen, howver you are currently using Kiuske, so Shinso is a HUGE upgrade from him, and his skill is more useful for your team being Senbon ignore the attack AND speed of supports, making that fury gain more of a boost for you IMO...  Tenjiro is fast for sure, but until you get his exclusive skill he's better for cleanup, which means you must outspeed him to make the most from him...   Oetsu is a solid AOE attacker and his mutilate is insane making that reduced attack rate from lack of love from the zanpacto matter that much less...


IMO, for you, Oetsu > Shinso > Kiuske > Tenjiro

however I'm heavily biased against Tenjiro for most builds as his skill is so random...
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-24 11:57:41

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-9-24 11:44
kirinji is faster than Oetsu usually/always from what I've seen, howver you are currently using Ki ...

cool thankks for your suggestions mylarhyrule san
author: HirakoShinji1213    time: 2017-9-24 20:12:34

Oetsu its my opinion
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2017-9-25 06:20:26

with that formation i say yhwach
author: Asian123    time: 2017-9-25 11:14:08

[email protected] replied at 2017-9-24 17:33
this is my formation

Better not to spend anything for a support if you're keeping senbon.
What is your budget?
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-26 03:49:01

easymoney2906 replied at 2017-9-24 08:04
Well with that team i think you should get shinigami agent. Senbon is shit zanpaktou for support l ...

his best bet is choosing the highest Growth rate attacking partners over ability stacking skills such as mutilate, better for PVE events atleast. Kirinji hits hard as fuck, but Oetsu is also a monster with mutilate. I'd say his best bet would be getting a better zanpakuto and running with Kirinji until he can replace him with someone better. He isnt a waste, you basically get him for free with the bonuses of shini agent. It's really win-win, i am still using Kirinji cause i cant get Shutara yet XD
author: picualex    time: 2017-9-28 14:42:27

cata puter ai pe muken aizen

author: [email protected]    time: 2017-9-29 10:22:02

kirinji is trash ultima aizen is better. pretty well anything is better then kirinji.
author: Xallog    time: 2017-9-29 10:31:05

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author: DarkIchig00    time: 2017-9-29 11:14:48

ultima is trash ganju can own him easly
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-10-2 14:02:31

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
author: Zeeker    time: 2017-10-2 14:24:35

[email protected] replied at 2017-10-2 14:02
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=4504786545314607&aid=68&t=1&lang=en_US

That Kirinji was stacked as fk and the guy you fought*probably you* must have extremely low bp compared to you. Imo that really doesn't show who's better in team.
author: [email protected]    time: 2017-10-2 23:26:48

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-10-2 23:32

^ nope, their BP just lower than me ~ 600k (I'm 7m3 and they're 6m8) because Muken rose my BP a lot but my kisuke and my main still very suck
the main point is my Kirinji always go first their Oetsu, decrease the speed all their team then Muken will become faster than Oetsu, there isn't any chance for Oestu even if he's same lv 70 exclusive skill as my Kirinji

author: Zeeker    time: 2017-10-3 11:17:03

Edited by Zeeker at 2017-10-3 11:23
[email protected] replied at 2017-10-2 23:26
^ nope, their BP just lower than me ~ 600k (I'm 7m3 and they're 6m8) because Muken rose my BP a lot  ...

Thats all you showed, is his speed is more than oetsu. Most of the people here know that and that exclusive skill of his wouldn't decrease the speed of that oetsu enough for that muken to attack before oetsu, unless that muken's speed stat is somehow high enough to be close to his. Last thing can u show the stats between your kirinji, oetsu, and muken?




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