Zaraki Kenpachi vs. Pantera Grimmjow (PVE)

theguyinblack

I've made this thread to hear ur opinions about these two and who's better...
Zaraki Kenpachi (Ghoste blade)

• Strengh           : 120 (3.1)
• Agility              : 120 (2.7)
• Wisdom           : 120 (2.5)
• HP                   : 300 (2.8)
• Kenpachi       : Increase strengh by certain percent (15%)
• Kendo Break : Att VG, 300%, increase assulters's block by 10% for 3 rnds.
• Cost 1.5K GR (+348 to lvl him up frmo lv80 to lv90, which is 1848 GR)*, at lv100 he'll unluck his 4th mode : +8% DMG, + his 8% att of course ...
  

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Pantera Grimmjow (Spirit blade)

• Strengh       : 200 (3.2)
• Agility          : 150 (2.8)
• Wisdom       : 150 (2.6)
• HP               : 480 (3.0)
• Pantera      : 20% DMG and 5% combo.
• Desgam     : Att VG, 200%, recover 100% fury.
• Cost 800 GR in total (+1209 to lvl him up from lv65 to lv100....yeah he'll be lv65 when u upgrade him , which is 2009 GR), as u all know, UWP partners can't be moded, n even if we can it's really hard to collect fragment's ...
  

*btw, info about Experience here, it's the same as us...tested...

MylarHyrule

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-12 04:03
Let's take a step back and analyse this further.
Pantera does 200%, and recovers fury 100. he will  ...

Kenny furys every 3rd round without fury supports,  and with furry supports, grimm furys with 150ish fury every round,  this is not counting any crits...
Kenny:
50 fury base, attack, +50 fury  100%
100 fury,  skill                        300%
0 fury,  attack, +50 fury          100%
50 fury, attack,  +50 fury        100%
100 fury,  skill                        300%
Grim
50 fury, attack,  +50 fury        100%  +20% natural
100 fury,  skill,  +100 fury       200%  +20% natural
100 fury,  skill,  +100 fury       200%  +20% natural
100 fury,  skill,  +100 fury       200%  +20% natural
100 fury,  skill,  +100 fury       200%  +20% natural

plus Grim has better stats all around...

factor into this when grim crits he goes off with 150% fury gaining damage bonus, plus he uses the same weapon as CSB Kenny, so that's already warmed up, lol

IMO it's hard to argue with this one...

thepoke007

I'm lvl93, was using grim till lvl90, then switched to zaraki, i know all of u think panthera is way better but think it this way, first u need to be lvl100 to get that upgrade, so waht to do in pve ie es n ryoka during 10 lvls? i made a bet on zaraki and i don't regret it i mean i make more silver know during es my dmg went from 6 to 8mill per attk, and in ryoka i one shot during 30 min now, while before i had to snipe during the last 10 min, zaraki makes me win more silver ie can afford to recruit upgrade reiatsu easily,

Ofc after lvl100 grim take place till lvl110 i guess

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i think you missed one omportant thing: SWP partners have bugged growth rate, it can say 3.1, but in reality it is 2.5 at best. Take off all equipment and pick em away from formation, then compare.

SosaRey

theguyinblack replied at 2015-3-27 03:58
well after all moded Pantera is even better than moded lv110 Ishida .... and i think we'll be able t ...

What's CN?  Are you sure that pantera grimmjow will be able to be modded soon?  If that's so, I'll immediately forfeit in getting Kenpachi, because I already have Ikkaku and go straight for panthera grimmjow.

I'd get Panthera, though I've heard it takes a very long wilhe to go from level 90-100.  I'm just 83 now.  Plus during that time 90-100, I'll have to continue to use grimmjow along with Ikkaku, because getting kenpachi for 90-100 is a waste of reishi.

OManric

Well if you don't have both rukia and urahara (or other fury partner to spam ken skill), pantera is certainly better

theguyinblack

well after all moded Pantera is even better than moded lv110 Ishida .... and i think we'll be able to mod SWP partners soon... CN already can mod them easily like tavern partners...

YagamiLi

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-26 14:08
Hmm ok, difficult choice, so I'll assume both are really good.  Though my question, maybe I didn't e ...

ya definetly
just make sure u don't have souls equipped when u upgrade it, else they will disapear

SosaRey

Hmm ok, difficult choice, so I'll assume both are really good.  Though my question, maybe I didn't explain it well.  Let's say I hit level 100, my main is level 100, and I decide I want to get panthera.  My grimmjow is lvl 86.  I get the coupons needed for pantera, reishi and exchange.  What happens next?  Will my lvl 86 grimmjow become a lvl 86 panthera grimmjow?

artinfection

Yalana replied at 2015-3-25 04:19
So what is the final answer ?
I think no-one take into account everything : stat grow rate + talent  ...

You have to take into account Crit rate too ~.~

So if you think about it , average damage increase with Pantera is higher than Kenpachi

Also max damage (favorable crits) is in favor of Grimmjow too (we assume he crits a lot , so we multiply base dmg with 1,8 , crits 4,5 times)

Base damage does not have a huge difference , to make Grimmjow SOOO worth it . But critical rate does