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author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 09:02:48 Title: maybe dumb question but...

Only for PVE, already have Zabi @ 2 star mod and level 5 evo. Whichever I use, I will put new skill on. Zabi's new skill looks brutal IMO. But I'm sure Kenny has much better raw stats and growth (but I don't know this for fact)

pics or translations of later level numbers on new skills would help the choice. this partner will probably never be my main focus, so the real question is which is better with marginal care?

Thanks!!

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 10:59:56

well fair enough then, looks like it was a dumb question, lol

author: shadarlo time: 2016-2-5 12:04:10

CSB Ken is infinitely better.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-5 12:06:12

yus, a stooped question unfortunately xD

Though i'd like to give proof for you to understand and stuff, it just is in every way to say 'CSB Ken > Zabi Renji', not opinion based or anything, it just really is that way ^^

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 12:56:35

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-2-5 12:06
yus, a stooped question unfortunately xD

Though i'd like to give proof for you to understand and st ...

well with old skills I can easily see that. but with new skills Zabi renji gets that +75% attack with his skill that I assume scales up with levels. That made me wonder maybe he stepped up his game

author: TheBadTouch time: 2016-2-5 13:02:36

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 12:56
well with old skills I can easily see that. but with new skills Zabi renji gets that +75% attack ...

Part of why I voted for shura is due to how much culti it would take to get zabi renj to use his new skill.
I guess it depends on your other partners
But I have a feeling it's possible that renji could be better in pve now.
What other partners you got bro?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 13:05:16

TheBadTouch replied at 2016-2-5 13:02
Part of why I voted for shura is due to how much culti it would take to get zabi renj to use his n ...

in pve, Isshin, Zabi Renji (swapping with vang), Main (9th skill) Tavern Kieske, and Jushiro (as my Dark Rukia didn't seem to be doing much for me) Muramasa as zanpacto and Zabi only needs level 7 for new skill to become activated

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-5 13:11:19

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 17:56
well with old skills I can easily see that. but with new skills Zabi renji gets that +75% attack ...

still, think of the difference between them, you can get 100% more attack on Zabi Renji sure, it won't make up for difference, but to 'equal' a Shura Ken (same gear and stuff), and you then exchanged to Shura Ken, the difference will indeed be HUGE ^^

Shura Ken's skill rate at 350% is better first round than Renji, and then also obtains fury back from this (this upgrades further with new skill, i believe to 70 fury, so a skill every round). Also mods are a thing to consider, they are both event partners so will take a while, so pretty much both in same mod speed to upgrade a star ^^

To get Zabi Renji's stats to match Shura Ken's stats will be insanely difficult, probably impossible lol, Shura does indeed win this even on soul cultivation :/ I guess you can have him as your third assaulter? xD ^^

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 13:14:01

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-2-5 13:11
still, think of the difference between them, you can get 100% more attack on Zabi Renji sure, it w ...

nah, Isshin trumps both IMO because of his new skill, plus I use him in pvp too

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 13:16:57

even if i don't use him, I'm gonna get him if for no other reason that to test out my theory, ya know?

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-5 13:18:01

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 18:14
nah, Isshin trumps both IMO because of his new skill, plus I use him in pvp too

oh didn't notice you have Isshin as your third assaulter ^^

Well, it seems like you want soul cultivate everyone to their new skill, think about it, that's a longggg ass time xD

So these are extremely long term plans, so might aswell make best of what you got atm, and if you don't need other partners from CSB buy Kenny and replace Zabi Renji for now, then upgrade either one of their skills (though i'd rather say soul cultivate Isshin first to make him viable once more) ^^

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 13:23:01

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-2-5 13:18
oh didn't notice you have Isshin as your third assaulter ^^

Well, it seems like you want soul cul ...

for sure on isshin. then I'm probably going to do Jushiro for that damage bonus. starting to focus on pve for a while. but the new skills won't take that long to get. isshin only needs level 10, Zabi renji needs level 7. Jushiro needs 10. don't understand why everyone is thinking it takes so long... then again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it WILL take a long time, lol

author: TheBadTouch time: 2016-2-5 13:27:11

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 13:16
even if i don't use him, I'm gonna get him if for no other reason that to test out my theory, ya kno ...

This^^^^
That's a good call man, as it's damned hard to say how long it'll take to get the new skill
(And isshin's new skill is so fuarking gnarly!)
This is the best course of action for sure

author: KiyokoTama time: 2016-2-5 13:28:37

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 20:23
for sure on isshin. then I'm probably going to do Jushiro for that damage bonus. starting to foc ...

isshin needs lvl 70
http://i.imgur.com/ZNds5lo.png
ukitake and zabimaru - lvl 30

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 13:29:35

yeah, I'm getting the points anyway, and have no place for wings (sadly) and Aizen either TBH, white Ichi at 12000 stones is just unreasonable for me to even think of as when I'm daily kicking ass in CSB I can get to about 43 to 45 in ranking and have no place for him anyway, lol

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-5 15:38:06

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 18:23
for sure on isshin. then I'm probably going to do Jushiro for that damage bonus. starting to foc ...

it's level 70, translation's wrong, or whatever the second lvl it shows is, they are both opposite, growth rate stuff is the lvl 15, or nothing idk im not there yet

but lvl 70 is the skill ^^

author: moongoatie time: 2016-2-5 15:53:01

Edited by moongoatie at 2016-2-5 15:59

Problem with upgraded Zabimaru is that it will force you to stop using 9th skill as well, so you can get his buff and dont get it overwritten by main's 9th skill. Which is -15% atk on each assaulter as well. It doesn't feel right. Isshin-Main-Shura is current pve assaulter line, and I'm leaning towards upping Isshin, if I don't up my Ultima. Haven't decided yet, need to see those 100 lvl skills, cause that 20% combo and damage rate seems to not worth it that much as well.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 16:45:49

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-2-5 15:38
it's level 70, translation's wrong, or whatever the second lvl it shows is, they are both opposite ...

oh fuck pardon the laguage

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 16:46:45

moongoatie replied at 2016-2-5 15:53
Problem with upgraded Zabimaru is that it will force you to stop using 9th skill as well, so you ca ...

gurr showed from Russian test server a maxed out main skill @ 400% damage rate, so I assume it grows nicely

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-5 16:47:44

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 21:45
oh fuck pardon the laguage

yeahh, now you see why it takes a while lol

extremely long term plan to obtain new skill, with my luck (only start of lvl 3 on 1 character, focused on that character), it will defo take me a year to obtain a new skill

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-5 17:21:36

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2016-2-5 16:47
yeahh, now you see why it takes a while lol

extremely long term plan to obtain new skill, with my ...

#optimistic I think your wrong, lol... "hope" may be a better word

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2016-2-5 17:46:19

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-2-5 22:21
#optimistic I think your wrong, lol... "hope" may be a better word

ugh fine

It'll take me as long as it will take me to get W.Ichi from CSB

12 years, legit 12 years

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