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author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-20 15:08:46 Title: Void have fake stats?

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2019-1-20 15:18

Nonetheless, on every enemy stats in today's void is stated that the enemy have 100k speed (100.000) however, the only partner that hits from my team is Kokuto, all my partners have over 100k...lol and just kokuto hits who's over 1 mil. I see they change the atk in the stats, still VR in my realm is undoable and is first time I'm seeing less than 10 people at void.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-20 15:15:37

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author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-20 15:18:05

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2019-1-20 15:19

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-20 15:15
Void is only for the stronk

you are not worthy

yea, guess I'm just a filthy casual who's not worth of doing void
that casual I never realised that HP is halfed at void, wtf?

author: ragfer time: 2019-1-20 15:50:16

Have some battle reports

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_Eu

And screens with stats

https://imgur.com/a/w7RI5QW

As you can see, i should go first before void bosses but i clearly am not.

#working_as_intended

PS. As seen in picture, BlstrZ who has over 7.5m bp does only 40k dmg.

author: ohmyvenus time: 2019-1-20 16:00:10

ragfer replied at 2019-1-20 15:50
Have some battle reports

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightreport/?rid=86136339468443045&aid=77&t=1&l ...

bp means nothing btw ur too weak go play other game

author: ragfer time: 2019-1-20 16:02:59

ohmyvenus replied at 2019-1-20 22:00
bp means nothing btw ur too weak go play other game

Son, who do you think you are.

I play Warframe.

I know what grind means.

This is why I will not quit.

Besides I have spent too much time to leave now.

author: ohmyvenus time: 2019-1-20 16:05:09

ragfer replied at 2019-1-20 16:02
Son, who do you think you are.

I play Warframe.

please if you complaint no need play u know vr stats then with ur partner rukia koma no rein go play other games u can't compete

author: ohmyvenus time: 2019-1-20 16:07:08

btw void today was too very very veryyyyyyyyyyyy easy, void really need 50m damage so no one can survive

author: ragfer time: 2019-1-20 16:08:03

ohmyvenus replied at 2019-1-20 22:05
please if you complaint no need play u know vr stats then with ur partner rukia koma no rein go pl ...

You seem to be a bit sick. Go get your pills

PS. noone knows void stats thats why this post has been made

author: StormShield time: 2019-1-20 16:51:01

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-20 23:18
yea, guess I'm just a filthy casual who's not worth of doing void
that casual I never realised that ...

Do you feel scammed man? Pour at least 1500$ more ,but then there is nothing more you can do here except quitting, because you have seen it all.

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-20 17:38:42

ragfer replied at 2019-1-20 15:50
Have some battle reports

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightreport/?rid=86136339468443045&aid=77&t=1&l ...

you seem to be in the same realm as me, I'm Cocolina Chan. keep grinding man xD

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-20 17:39:57

StormShield replied at 2019-1-20 16:51
Do you feel scammed man? Pour at least 1500$ more ,but then there is nothing more you can do here ...

Guess that's what I'm gonna do... at least 1000$ and i'll be able to scratch void..^_^

author: ragfer time: 2019-1-20 17:51:02

Think of that dude with 20m bp.

Remember how low dmg he dealt.

Think again how much you want to top.

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-20 20:02:53

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-20 20:33:00

I will leave a feedback about VR when I do mine.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2019-1-20 22:10:59

They actually did increase the atk on the Void enemies. Ulquiorra's burn now does 1.8m damage, since it is 50% growth rate on the burn, that means he actually has 3.6m atk now.

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-20 22:19:15

mayuri1177 replied at 2019-1-20 22:10
They actually did increase the atk on the Void enemies. Ulquiorra's burn now does 1.8m damage, sinc ...

No, that's only because Grimmjow gives 20% attack boost as part of skill. Without that, it's 3 million attack.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2019-1-20 22:31:52

Edited by mayuri1177 at 2019-1-20 23:03

theunknown404 replied at 2019-1-20 22:19
No, that's only because Grimmjow gives 20% attack boost as part of skill. Without that, it's 3 mil ...

His burn used to be 1.5m before today. They are also doing much more damage to my Ginjo, he was actually dying to them today.

Also, dots have never been boosted or decreased with buffs and debuffs.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-20 23:12:49

WAY too easy... my attack range from 600mil - 1.1b per hit... sometimes drops below that when I test stuff out. But this stats are the exact same stats as last time, I guess they didn't lower the dmg and speed.

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-20 23:24:58

mayuri1177 replied at 2019-1-20 22:31
His burn used to be 1.5m before today. They are also doing much more damage to my Ginjo, he was ac ...

That is how ignite and poison is supposed to work. RJ's ignite is the only one that is not affected since zanpakuto stats are fixed from the beginning of the battle. Do you have a past report to verify that it was always 1.5 million? I'm not saying it could not have been bugged before. I just would be interested to see.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2019-1-20 23:49:02

theunknown404 replied at 2019-1-20 23:24
That is how ignite and poison is supposed to work. RJ's ignite is the only one that is not affecte ...

Coming from someone that has used dots with Askin, Mayuri and Isane, I can say dots are not boosted by anything other than the attack of the user(not even Benny's halo).

The only old BR I found from a 20th VR, was an old one from May of last year. It was before they buffed the enemies. I can check Discord later to see if I ever posted one on the 20th of a more recent month.

This was a 4.93b hit, pre-BWB, Uryu and Ginjo.
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-21 01:18:00

mayuri1177 replied at 2019-1-20 23:49
Coming from someone that has used dots with Askin, Mayuri and Isane, I can say dots are not booste ...

Looks like Pantera Grimmjow didn't get to skill much due to constantly getting stunned against Valkyrie, so he never put an attack buff on Ulquiorra. However, at the 10th round, he finally skills and the ignite damage goes up from 470000 to 564000.
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I do not know why. When we first tested Askin on test server, we added in attack halos and attack buffs to up Askin's poison damage, and it worked then. That was why we were saying he was too broken. His damage was able to exceed most partners' HP. It would be nice if they changed this.

author: Aratron time: 2019-1-21 02:46:02

gogames: we will stop whales that abuse the game and win to easy in VR (actually someone is removing his competition)
in reality: whales still kill the game, other players don't have a chance... (Certain someone will test how he performs when he is strongest (biggest whale ever) aaaand he perferms well I don't see any problem here)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

author: StormShield time: 2019-1-21 03:02:54

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-21 01:39
Guess that's what I'm gonna do... at least 1000$ and i'll be able to scratch void..^_^

Invest your money elsewhere , unless you feel you need to lose your money for nothing then go ahead , just to be able to do some dmg in some crappy event.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-21 03:39:32

Aratron replied at 2019-1-21 00:46
gogames: we will stop whales that abuse the game and win to easy in VR (actually someone is removing ...

Sounds like a butthurt to me.

Let me remind you...

1. Debuff on PvE bosses was never intended to be there. Hence, they are simply perform a fix. Sure... weaker players can use them to have any damage, but stronger players can abuse them as well. Hence, upgrading PvE bosses will become pointless. I am doing good because I never rely on bugs and face void full on since it releases.

2. Upgrading Void is to prevent whales to 1hko VR, so other able players can do some damage as well.

3. It is SUPER easy for me, hence it should be easy for someone weaker, normal for someone EVEN weaker, hard for someone weaker than that. Now when the atk is really down to 1.5mil only, it'll be made even easier cuz people wants to use more "variety of partners".

You should blame yourself that you build your team based on freezing the boss. That delusional period is over, time to wake up and face real challenge.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-21 03:42:00

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-20 15:39
Guess that's what I'm gonna do... at least 1000$ and i'll be able to scratch void..^_^

It's not all about topping up, it required time and knowledge you invest in this game. Don't listen to toxic trolls.

author: Aratron time: 2019-1-21 03:43:41

Edited by Aratron at 2019-1-21 10:51

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-21 10:39
Sounds like a butthurt to me.

Let me remind you...

are you on some kind of drugs... what the hell are you talking about go search professional help
I never used freeze I don't give a damn about VR it was a joke but you take it too seriously as always because your reputation is in danger?

This is sarcasm (but mostly truth).. it is a joke not a dick don't take it too hard

If you want to be fair make it end game content with min requirements of level 159 or something... stop deceiving people

Btw i played around DOTs not freeze (mostly burn effects) but since i can't do jack shit I'm done with that crap

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-21 04:25:10

Aratron replied at 2019-1-21 01:43
are you on some kind of drugs... what the hell are you talking about go search professional help
I ...

I care-less about my "reputation", I never had/want any to begin with.

So you think your joke aka your sarcasm are mostly truth, then it's no longer a joke. I think you are the one on drug.

Level requirement is just for you to enter and get the taste of it, and gauge the power. It doesnt mean you are good enough to play in there. It has been explained so many times.

awww, my dot doesnt work either. =[[[[

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-21 05:53:19

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-21 03:42
It's not all about topping up, it required time and knowledge you invest in this game. Don't listen ...

*troll
There is only one toxic troll here.

To quote someone from this forum :

If you could see all the shit talk he does in chat in game and then see he come here and pretend he is a nice player when in reality he is toxic as hell. I don't care that people top up, but you see most of them not being toxic or talking shit about everyone every single day.

author: [email protected] time: 2019-1-21 06:15:55

Aratron replied at 2019-1-21 12:46
gogames: we will stop whales that abuse the game and win to easy in VR (actually someone is removing ...

lolzzz sarcasm at its best ....

author: StormShield time: 2019-1-21 06:19:27

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-21 12:25
I care-less about my "reputation", I never had/want any to begin with.

So you think your joke aka ...

Dude you surely need some medical help. This is not even funny anymore. Do you even read your own posts or what?

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-21 06:49:12

Please let's not forget the starting point. It's stated that all void has 100k speed, but in fact they have 1mil

author: Aratron time: 2019-1-21 07:09:36

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-21 13:49
Please let's not forget the starting point. It's stated that all void has 100k speed, but in fact th ...

for eu was less than 660k because i was able to hit... but still VR is broken (as intended)

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-21 08:24:14

Edited by rugalb666 at 2019-1-21 14:27

ok, let's talk real for a second, how much attack and damage rate do you need on a partner to do a noticeable damage on void? By noticeable I don't even mean something serious, to get a good ranking, but what is the threshold to get a damage higher than 5. No bullshit talk I want real figures, anyone?

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-21 09:07:31

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 08:24
ok, let's talk real for a second, how much attack and damage rate do you need on a partner to do a n ...

On paper, 1mil atk with 250% modify should be able to deal 500k dmg, however, there is avoid injury rate and unknown stats on void. I understand that 2atk physical and about 280-300% modify, to do proper dmg

author: Aratron time: 2019-1-21 09:09:37

Edited by Aratron at 2019-1-21 16:24

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 15:24
ok, let's talk real for a second, how much attack and damage rate do you need on a partner to do a n ...

Well VR team has 3 mil def on everyone which means you must be able to deal more than that excluding def reduction if you can do something like that..
Muken and Sternritter Uryū with [Additionally increase ignore Defense and Crit Damage by 40% (When Muken Aizen in battle, it will simultaneously increase the same effect for him)]
Presumably, you'll need to deal above 1,8 mil dmg

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-21 09:18:38

ok so at least 3 000 000 atk and 280% dmg rate

author: Aratron time: 2019-1-21 09:25:57

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 16:18
ok so at least 3 000 000 atk and 280% dmg rate

Well correct me if i'm wrong, but the attack you deal is (enemy def - your attack) x dmg rate%/100 so to do dmg you must make big difference between def and attack with def reduction or attack mutiplication

Look my edited post above

author: SolKnight time: 2019-1-21 09:35:23

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 08:24
ok, let's talk real for a second, how much attack and damage rate do you need on a partner to do a n ...

A minimum damage huh?

Around a 2000001l Attack unit atleast + a minimum for 50% attack booster to do more than exactly 5 damage.
Does not matter if you cover the attack by halos or not but the base should be reaching that point when in battle one way or another and a booster is vital. Damage rate boost wont matter shit unless you reach that minimal threshold what so ever but when you are past it the damage rate buff will do some great damage.

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-21 09:35:59

Edited by rugalb666 at 2019-1-21 15:39

Aratron replied at 2019-1-21 15:25
Well correct me if i'm wrong, but the attack you deal is (enemy def - your attack) x dmg rate%/100 ...

yes, but I just wanted to know the threshold value when you pass from negative to 0, so without any effect of ignore defense, it's 3 mil
Thanks you and EdmondGzv for yours answers

Edit:

just saw SolKnight answer

So according to SolKnight and EdmondGzv, it's 2000 000 att , well I can work with that for a starter lol

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-21 10:46:54

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 09:18
ok so at least 3 000 000 atk and 280% dmg rate

As Sol said, the DMG doesn't matter if you don't have enough ATK to surpass the DEF, but if you want to keep your normal damage it's 150% DMG mini, since void has 50% Immune rate.

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-21 11:01:57

ok so if I compile yours answers 3 million attack and 150% dmg rate is ground zero for void

author: SolKnight time: 2019-1-21 11:53:53

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 11:01
ok so if I compile yours answers 3 million attack and 150% dmg rate is ground zero for void

P much.
If you have a character with 2 000 001+ initial attack + the 50% Attack booster they should be past 150% damage rate either way which is always your secondary focus and yes that 1 in the end of the 2 mill matters you need that to do damage.
To add upon that damage it helps if you are RI 5 with an advance attribute but thats kinda optional.

author: ohmyvenus time: 2019-1-21 12:23:39

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 08:24
ok, let's talk real for a second, how much attack and damage rate do you need on a partner to do a n ...

3m attack with 400% damage rate

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-21 14:01:00

this is my battle support normally i get one shot ofc but this time muken became intouchable for some hits...

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=fr_FR

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-21 14:07:27

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-21 04:49
Please let's not forget the starting point. It's stated that all void has 100k speed, but in fact th ...

That problem had been reported.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-21 14:12:34

Potdenutella replied at 2019-1-21 03:53
*troll
There is only one toxic troll here.

Yes, of course, it came from someone who do stupid shit from my server, who purposely 1hko ES so that others won't get any hit, while i lower my atk and swap out most of my partners so everyone gets to hit ES; enslave everyone of them so they cant get exp easily and they struggle to level up; coupon the shit out of Protect so that we cant keep holding the gate and claim they never used coupons.
Reference dantrifex, you can ask him about that.

Yea, quote from that person makes perfect sense.

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-21 15:23:35

adnane.bek replied at 2019-1-21 14:01
this is my battle support normally i get one shot ofc but this time muken became intouchable for som ...

Nice strat there with no fury, nice fight.. so many dodges on Aizen, nice work!

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-21 15:27:19

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-21 14:07
That problem had been reported.

Thanks for your work

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-21 15:31:41

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-21 14:12
Yes, of course, it came from someone who do stupid shit from my server, who purposely 1hko ES so th ...

It's a part of competition though, there is someone who keep doing that in my server who I think has the IQ below average but honestly I don't mind because it's strategic : WOULD you rather cut your reward's efficency to slowdown everyone's progression, or nerf your damage to get better reward but everyone will progress ?
Remember the ES gives 3 times the reward on the first hit, the OHKO guy will climb faster if he does the first option (maybe not in CSB tho) if he's fast enough to kill all three ES before the others can even land a hit.

Don't call someone an asshole just because he is being an ass (duh) toward the newbies or the whole server, that's the nature of this game, the strong survive and the weak die, just call yourself lucky to have someone who listen to your wishes. It's similar to the old CSB threads where OPs ask the realm to register naked and all so they get the inferno stone faster, or about someone who keep blocking them due to atrocious BP difference... all your answers was telling them to git gud while encouraging those blockers to keep register full formation (or was it someone else ? I forgot), I share the same wishing for them to register full especially in the top rank where some peoples are still naked and it annoys me, it can't be helped.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-21 16:47:49

Potdenutella replied at 2019-1-21 13:31
It's a part of competition though, there is someone who keep doing that in my server who I think h ...

I am just saying you actually quote from an ass, which makes it that quote of yours invalid. Maximize profit is only based on that max damage per hit, anything above is useless. Looking after others well being too is a nice quality, especially being the top player in the server. But exactly, this is a competition game, it's part of nature of this game. This can easily applies to all the complains above. Thanks for that.

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-21 17:36:39

Edited by rugalb666 at 2019-1-21 23:41

adnane.bek replied at 2019-1-21 20:01
this is my battle support normally i get one shot ofc but this time muken became intouchable for som ...

nvm I was going to ask what was that, it is this fossilize crap or whatnotThanks for posting that, I was wondering how a guy on my server managed to do some damage

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-22 02:31:50

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-21 15:23
Nice strat there with no fury, nice fight.. so many dodges on Aizen, nice work!

lol thanks, frankly it is just pure random luck on that battle regarding aizen dodging dmg or whatever it was lol

yep regarding this combi it helps gets around 4 million dmg im so far from the 300mill i was doing long ago or 100 million after the previous patch still i can rank 2nd; dmg whise i lack raw fire power;

gooluck btw for ur next ToT

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-22 02:33:29

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-21 17:36
nvm I was going to ask what was that, it is this fossilize crap or whatnotThanks for posting that, ...

probably same strat; regarding the fossilize ( i didnt think about that) i'm still wondering what happened;

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-22 03:19:46

Edited by rugalb666 at 2019-1-22 09:33

adnane.bek replied at 2019-1-22 08:33
probably same strat; regarding the fossilize ( i didnt think about that) i'm still wondering what ...

Correction it's "void" (the irony!) not "fossilized"
you got "void" by Ultima mob, so you couldn't be hurt by normal attack only special, meanwhile as you didn't attack them they didn't trigger their "clear debuff on attack" so your poison dot acted up.
Interesting find indeed of void fucking itself, now be on the lookout for this ultima mob(if they don't tamper void yet again)

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-22 05:49:38

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-22 03:19
Correction it's "void" (the irony!) not "fossilized"
you got "void" by Ultima mob, so you couldn't ...

LOOOOL; narohodo; makes sense; thanks for clearing that out; indeed a lucky find to exploit void against void

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