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author: [email protected]    time: 2015-3-26 09:37:18     Title: ohh elders please show me your wisdom once again!

Hello there!

i asked for an advice like week or so ago and got some (was using different acc)
but here we go again.

1. should i lvl up my reiatsu to 40 (atm 36) to get my zampakuto (sogyo) to hogyoku-kai or start saving for 80 tavern partners?

im atm lvl 75 270k bp all ranks 1!
pve formation= kidomain, swp grim, tavern renji, nanao, rukia
pvp= main, event hirako, sanji, orihime, tavern yoruichi
getting rukia + assaulters to T1 on 80

so which 1 would benefit me more, getting rdy for 80 or getting reiatsu to 40?

and on the sidenote, i just got espada 3# cleared, any1 got any idea of when/how i could continue? espada 2# kinda kick my ass haaaard!

author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-3-26 10:11:52



up ur reiatsu...

as high as possible... tavern partners u dun need to get all of them...

onli those u think tht u really need...


imo... there is onli 2 lvl 80 tavern partners which might be useable...

but... if u lvl fast enuf... u can skip them... n if u r a spender u can skip them too...

if u realli wanna get its onli Sajin for VG ... n Yorui for PVP ( optionable... ) if can skip it...

but do get Kisuke & Ikka... he is damm worthwhile... be it VIP or non VIP

author: Influentik    time: 2015-3-26 10:13:21

Tbh, saving up for level 80 tavern partners would not be your main priority.
In order, I would class the urgency of the tasks like so;
1. Lv 40 rei and HG sogyo
2. Save up for lv 80 partners.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-3-26 10:28:06

mmmkay, gona do that then.

but regarding partners, how long approx it takes to get csb ken? as i just started to do csb i have no idea.
and which i should get first kisuke or ikka? i know theres this exact same question on different thread, but there is no clear answer!
saying which ever you need more isnt an asnwer coz i dunno which i need more...

as paofui already mentioned theyr both really good so im planning on getting both but which first?
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-3-26 10:36:48

Edited by Leitzur at 2015-3-26 22:41
[email protected] replied at 2015-3-26 22:28
mmmkay, gona do that then.

but regarding partners, how long approx it takes to get csb ken? as i ju ...

how long to get csb ken.. it depends on how much shinigami tokens you can got perday..
for example, if you constantly 100 shinigami tokens perday, means you can only get 20 challenge stone for one day (50 shinigami tokens = 10 challenge stones)
and csb kenpachi costs 4000, 4000:20=200 days of participating
author: Influentik    time: 2015-3-26 10:41:37

Ok, get Kisuke first, then Ikkaku, basic math suggests you will hit tonnes more damage in longer matches, when you are able to use your fury attack faster. And.. I would personally get kaname, everyone gets ikkaku, I was one of the very few to get Tosen, I want you to read his ability and skill. Tosen is so good, I still use him at level 109. trust me on this one pal ;)

Next, To get SWP Byakuya or kenpachi, can take anywhere between 2-6 months, depending on how long it takes you to gather challenge stones. But! Definitely worth saving up.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-3-26 10:43:14

bleeeh i was hoping for more like 1-2 months hmm gotta check tosen out

thanks for the tips!


edit: ohh and on the first day i cleared whole csb 2nd day there was some1 with douple my bp on 2nd row -.- and today i cleared all,
if its just the shinigami tokens its quite easy to calculate but do you get some bonus at the end of the season?
and do you get more tokens from the chests if your placement is better?
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-3-26 10:50:09

yes you got bonus tokens at end of the season. above is just calculating roughly, but that bonus doesn't have much difference despite the rank.

if your placement is better, you got more tokens but opponents you have to beat is harder, so you may have difficulty to constantly clear all rows (unless you are very OP )
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-3-26 11:00:27

Hogoku kai is very helpful especially in arena and events. I personally would recommend raising your reiatsu. Not to mention the increased bonuses to your partners.
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-3-26 14:00:05

Be a real special person

Get Shunsui like I did

He kicks booty
author: Audis3000    time: 2015-3-26 14:04:20

Influentik replied at 2015-3-26 10:41
Ok, get Kisuke first, then Ikkaku, basic math suggests you will hit tonnes more damage in longer mat ...

i wanna be moderator too O.O
author: watman    time: 2015-3-26 14:23:26

Edited by watman at 2015-3-26 14:25

Partners
Reiatsu
Fortifications

All are dependent on silver, and that's how I would rank their importance

All partners are situational
So think long and hard about who would serve you the most favorably for the longest amount of time before you earn enough silver to recruit a replacement
  -- I've considered it a waste of silver(gold reishi) recruiting Saijin && Kisuke, because I recruited Toshiro and Shinso shortly thereafter
     Those 2200 gold Reishi would've served me really well right about now in recruiting Daiguren Toshiro
     Albeit I didn't expect to spend $ for event partners.  Who knew, right?

Since you took the time to ask forums for help, you're asking for those who have gone through your same thoughts, and so I'd like you to think about your long term formation:
What kind of formation(s) do you want?

Purely PvE?
Purely PvP?
Are you f2p or going to spend a bit?
If you are going to spend, how much?
  -- You pretty much have a rough estimation on how much each event partner can be bought for now, since they've been recycled a few times.
     So think about who would be of the most value to you  
     --  I think out of all the partners I've had, Shini Yoru was the best bang for the buck.  She put me on a whole different level of viability
         Although fast forward 50 levels: I will be replacing her for CSB Byakuya or Isshin soon, so even she has a limited life span before replacement
A team that works well in both?
  -- Will you be lazy in swapping formations?  
      --  I, for example, disliked switching formation because it left some partners ridiculously behind in level
          So I stopped switching formations altogether

Do you just wanna' have fun?
-- Build a funny team, like a triple-control lane
   ie: Starrk or whatever vanguard of your choosing
       Main w/ 3rd skill
       Tav Gin or Daiguren - Tavern Kisuke - Tavern Shihoin Yoruichi
   This would be a hilarious team, and they're all free with the exception of Daiguren with a VIP prerequisite of 1
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-3-26 16:12:16

Wow! first of all thanks for actually using that much time to reply to me!

Yeah im atm vip 6 and have "decided" that i wont buy any 30+k partners or so, only those that cost like max 6k i can think about.
acually if shini yoru would come up now how much would it cost? about? cudnt find it anywhere -.- would really help on hollow souls etc.

zädäm 1 question to whom ever wants to reply, does dark rukias dmg buff + sogyo work together?
for some reason i though they overwrote each other so i didnt get rukia from treasuremap. :/

question to some1 who know/is 110++ lvl, is it actually possible to be good at pvp with "pve" team (vg killer) if you dont count the super expencive parters on it.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-26 16:29:14

watman replied at 2015-3-26 14:23
Partners
Reiatsu
Fortifications

I want to get more silver.  More silver equals more opportunity to forge gear, reiatsu and partners.  I want an OP pve team, in other words an OP ryoka and ES team because in ryoka it gets tough.  I have to put my vanguard after 10 minutes and ES ends in 10 minutes.  I'm right now in the middle of whether getting gold partner or lvling up reiatsu.  My team is Renji Tavern mod 2, ikkaku mod 1, main(kido), rukia no mods and momo no mods.  All my silver, all is going for tavern uruhara, and after I get him all my silver will go for kenpachi lvl 90.  My question, should I get uruhara for 10 minutes of ryoka and 10 minutes of ES?  Or should I use all my silver to increase my reiatsu at 35 and get zabi.  Current reiatsu is 31.  I have 550 gold reishi and 2 million silver.  Which first, reiatsu or uruhara?
author: watman    time: 2015-3-26 19:12:56

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-26 16:29
I want to get more silver.  More silver equals more opportunity to forge gear, reiatsu and partner ...

No one likes to read giant walls of text without differentiating thoughts
author: artinfection    time: 2015-3-26 20:23:21

btw if you dont have Dark Rukia , Zabi is better than Sogyo !!!! At least for Ryoka/ES
author: mansonloo    time: 2015-3-26 21:01:26

I believed paofui and watman gave u very good advices. Paofui has pinpoint which partners u should go for. Watman gave the choice back to u by letting u differentiate what priority u want for ur own gameplay. But since ur posting his question, I believed ur not a big spender in the game, which is good as it shows u spend ur pennies wisely. Gimme 10 mins to write my advice, gonna switch from my mobile to PC so I can have better control lol
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-26 21:20:48

Sorry for writing so much, just didn't want to repeat question after question.  I'm vip1, i don't have nor don't plan to get any event partner that costs more than $50.  I might go for lvl 80 event gear maybe, just to be vip4. So I'm not a big spender. My limit is $50, thats it.  One final thought and I"m done, cause I've disturbed you too much.  After 10 minutes of ryoka, when I switch my vanguard back on, how should my formation be for max damage.  2-2-1 (kisuke tavern when i get him, rukia no mods, ikkaku 1 mod, main and vanguard sajin)? or 1-3-1 (rukia/kisuke, ikkaku, renji mod 2, main and vang sajin).  Thank you for your time.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-3-26 21:25:53

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-26 18:20
Sorry for writing so much, just didn't want to repeat question after question.  I'm vip1, i don't ha ...

better get protect stones for all lvs if ur not going past 50

otherwise u suck forever
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-26 21:28:45

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-26 21:25
better get protect stones for all lvs if ur not going past 50

otherwise u suck forever

Ah ok.  Thanks for the advice.  Should I get lvl 70 or don't bother and get lvl 80 protection stone?  current lvl 83, with only lvl 80 gear on main and lvl 70 gear on rest of partners
author: mansonloo    time: 2015-3-26 21:32:48

so as i mentioned, seeing that ur asking this question, i can tell that silver is ur major concern. using silver wisely and having the sufficient flow of silver from ES and Ryoka will eventually decide ur end game ranking. having said that, i will tell u that, having the best PVE team (at the moment) is ur best direction, at least until level 100.

here's a list of what u should do first:


on a side note, here some facts u can consider:


this is all i can share with u. hope u'll have a blast!


author: mansonloo    time: 2015-3-26 21:34:51

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-26 21:20
Sorry for writing so much, just didn't want to repeat question after question.  I'm vip1, i don't ha ...

go 1-3-1 for better dmg. ur VG can only tank max 2-3 rounds. so having the extra fury will render useless.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-3-26 21:38:23

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-26 18:28
Ah ok.  Thanks for the advice.  Should I get lvl 70 or don't bother and get lvl 80 protection ston ...

80/90/100/110
200/250/300/350
realistically just the 1st three tho

not many reach 115 in there life time
author: mansonloo    time: 2015-3-26 21:41:36

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-26 21:38
80/90/100/110
200/250/300/350
realistically just the 1st three tho

Where is the # :p
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-27 01:46:46

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-26 21:32
so as i mentioned, seeing that ur asking this question, i can tell that silver is ur major concern.  ...

Thank you for your advice and very easy to read.  I appreciate that.  A couple of things I noticed.

Firstly I got Ikkaku at 80, first thing I did, and I've already modded him once, he's great.

Secondly I did fortify specifically my attack and wisdom max except I didn't spirit forged them.  I was gonna do it when my partners reach80.  They're 78.  My main is spirit forged 80 though and I use angry slash to snipe ryokas when possible. My other lvl 70 gears on asaulters are normal, I will pass them to rukia and kisuke and when my asaulters reach 80 I'll forge 80 gear and spirit forge them with pierce enchant.

Thirdly my reiatsu is 31.  It is in hold until I get Kisuke which is step 5.  After that I will continue reiatsu.

I modded tavern renji only 2 because I figured he'd be replaced soon.

I use renji with ikkaku and main.  I don't have sogyo nor plan to get him soon.  So I use 9th not 8th skill. Its currently lvl 20.  I don't use 8th skill.  Its at 0.

LASTLY and very important.  You mentioned tavern renji's damage is more than Shin Grimmjow.  I think you are wrong.  Almost everybody I've asked, even on similar threads have said Shin Grimmjow does more damage than a modified 3 tavern renji.  

Thank you for taking the time to post.  Your wisdom will help me stand out in my server.
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-3-27 01:52:35

SosaRey replied at 2015-3-26 22:46
Thank you for your advice and very easy to read.  I appreciate that.  A couple of things I noticed ...

31 reiatsu woooooooooooww

mine is higher than that >:-D
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-3-27 06:06:07

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-26 21:32
so as i mentioned, seeing that ur asking this question, i can tell that silver is ur major concern.  ...

thanks for the effort!

I know from doing it myself, nanao´s buff do not overwrite sogyo´s buff
which is why im using nanao atm in pve.

and for what reason people keep saying that zabimaru is better than sogyo w/o dark rukia? they have exact same damage rates only difference being sogyo got speed. as far as i can see it.?

Fortify! im keeping my weps/boots updated but rest are starting fall a bit atm ~10-15lvls behind, i guess thats not too bad! thou still keeping belt on vg up to date!

for what i have though/tested having rukia faster than assaulters results in more dmg, doesnt make difference if it faster/slower it will always attack after using skills anyway. only difference being that 1st set of skills have extra fury.

atm im getting my rei to 40 so ikka will be delayed to probly like 81, and kisuke till 84-85
and since im using shin hirako in pvp( and have grimmjow for pve) i have to replace renji as i dont have extra ghost blade


but im just saaad! im still so far from 1 hitting ryokas! only doing like 2,2mil dmg on first atk!
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-27 12:44:15

[email protected] replied at 2015-3-27 06:06
thanks for the effort!

I know from doing it myself, nanao´s buff do not overwrite sogyo´s buff

I do 2.5 mil, at first attack in ryoka.  I'm far but that is mainly because of my reiatsu being 31, and momo support keeping me back, I have to replace her for events asap.  Ikkaku is great, he damages hard and even helps out in pvp by reducing fury.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-27 12:47:19

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-27 01:52
31 reiatsu woooooooooooww

mine is higher than that >:-D

Well, as mentioned, all my silver are going for tavern partners.  Right now I want to get kisuke uruhara asap to tag along with rukia so he will replace momo, but after I get kisuke,

I will work hard to raise my reiatsu to 35 for zabimaru.  As soon as I hit 35 reiatsu, I'll focus all my silver at the moment to get gold reishi for kenpachi at lvl 90 and then my pve team will be complete.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-28 21:21:28

Anybody knows if 9th skill overwrites tavern renjis skill?  Does it add or overwrite.  The attack percentage boosts



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