Noza Ken or Demon Ichi?

maniacpkt

I currently use True Shikai, but would like a more offensive Vangaurd as well.  i'm still 1300 frags away from getting Noza, but with demon ichi coming available in lease, i'm torn on who to get.  i know noza is free, but it's going to take a ton of silver i don't have to get him up to speed.  with demon, it'll cost gold but i won't have to level him or waste silver in janken.

i need other's input on this.  thanks.

maniacpkt

Brahmastra replied at 2015-9-29 03:44
Stick to TSI since he will counter both Noza and DI with his skill, not to mention the growth rates  ...

oh, i have no intention of stopping using TSI in my pvp team.  i don't get all the hate he receives.  he's a powerhouse on defense with a skill that will level most teams on his own.  i just need an alternate for ryoka and hollow soul.

Brahmastra

Stick to TSI since he will counter both Noza and DI with his skill, not to mention the growth rates and other effects he does. Though I must admit Noza and DI are better in Hollow Soul.

noctustheking

dandyr replied at 2015-9-28 05:41
True shikai Atks all too and has an uber skill and growth-rate isn't he offensive? always thought he ...

hes great i use him
imo hes great if you can T1 him turn 1 with shinso/urahara preferably shinso since you would have already AOED them with his sword dance XD
but yea turn 1 i dont worry about his bugged normal i do devastating damage round 1
his blocks are bugged too but each time you block you save quite a lot of HP
love his silences on enemy supports, -25% debuff on assaulter damage, and he can make a VG useless if he is faster than the VG (reduces fury while restricting fury gain)

maniacpkt

dandyr replied at 2015-9-28 05:41
True shikai Atks all too and has an uber skill and growth-rate isn't he offensive? always thought he ...

he's a defensive powerhouse and his skill is unbelievable, but his normal attacks do 5-13 damage.  you really need to rely on crits to do any amount of damage.

dandyr

True shikai Atks all too and has an uber skill and growth-rate isn't he offensive? always thought he was best van (Sorry if i sound noob just wondered about it)

maniacpkt

well, i got to circi in hollow soul with TSI, so demon has to be an upgrade there.  thanks for the help.

sirnibbles

maniacpkt replied at 2015-9-26 22:22
i like his defense, but yeah his offense is almost non-existent.  who is better between noza and de ...

imo demons better cuz of that aoe and heal and aid and ya pretty much cuz of everything

noza's the best partner for 1v1 in hollow soul tho, demons the best vg for 5v5

maniacpkt

sirnibbles replied at 2015-9-26 22:05
demon's better than tsi anyway

i like his defense, but yeah his offense is almost non-existent.  who is better between noza and demon, though?

sirnibbles

demon's better than tsi anyway