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author: JemoWhite time: 2016-10-31 17:36:54 Title: cheapest events for berenji and shini kensei

Wich events would you guys chose to buy them from ? Don't have the vitality ad the moment for berenji and don't want to what could be an half year to wait for him to come again in ubp. I both want them for my pve team i bought katenzanpaktou in halloween event now i need those 2guys and then with cute orihime and kisuke i hope to make an kick Ass pve team. So the question wich event do you guys think would be the cheapest to get those partners? thanks in advance

author: [email protected] time: 2016-10-31 18:14:30

id say ultra hero because even though you need to top up 12k gold you get to keep the gold and get brenji, which gives you a chance to spend those 12k gold in another event for gear / stones or whatever tickles your fancy

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-10-31 18:24:37

Was actually already thinking of ultra hero just want to be sure there aren't any better events. Because i am far from rich and its a lott off money for me. Ideally i was hoping something similar like Halloween event since the prices where very cheap inn that. But it didn't have berenji or shini kensei inn it so a question also iss where there events like that before with the same price rate? But with them inn it.

author: Miken97 time: 2016-10-31 18:37:54

I think the cheapest way would be getting one of them from ultra hero for 12k top-up( i would advise getting b.renji first) and later using gold from top-up in some spend event. The only one i can think about right now is dominators (12k gold) but it is really rare and i wouldn't use it since it looks bugged . Maybe one of them will appear in some holiday event but right now i can't recall any normal event from which you could take him. But i think with your team you can take sexy yoruichi from reio guardian(2-3k depending on your strategy and luck) instead of kensei. With enough critic and your main using 8th skill everyone in your team would skill every turn and b.renji would skill twice a turn

I can't tell it for sure since it is only theory but i think you would benefit from yoruichi more than from kensei,she hits harder, has high combo as well and can ensure that your main will skill every turn giving your b.renji extra turn (if you have enought critic stones of course).

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author: JemoWhite time: 2016-10-31 18:47:27

Miken97 replied at 2016-10-31 18:37
I think the cheapest way would be getting one of them from ultra hero for 12k top-up( i would advise ...

I actually have sexy Yoruichi already but i think kensei would be better because he would give combo rate to berenji making him strike more ofthen. + kensei gets 100fury every turn and then with orihime and kisuke i think the damage output would be higher inn the end. But if you think i'm wrong inn that explenation feel free to explain. I'm just trying to get an as high as possible damage output inn ryoka attack

author: [email protected] time: 2016-10-31 19:23:41

JemoWhite replied at 2016-10-31 18:47
I actually have sexy Yoruichi already but i think kensei would be better because he would give com ...

since you have sexy yoru u shouldnt bother with kensei then, higher special growth on yoru+fury regen+dmg or dmg rate to suports will help you more than kensei and this way u can use the 12k gold ob ulti equipement

author: Miken97 time: 2016-10-31 19:32:41

JemoWhite replied at 2016-10-31 18:47
I actually have sexy Yoruichi already but i think kensei would be better because he would give com ...

Since sexy yoruichi gives 25 fury with enough critics your whole team can get 100 fury from your fury boosters every turn. That way your main can use 8th skill every turn(since he gets 100 fury as well)meaning he has 100% chance of giving extra turn to b.renji each turn(starting from turn2). Everyone skills every turn and b.renji gets extra hit every turn plus your main has 35% to get extra hit from sexy yoruichi(as i said she has high combo). At the other hand kensei gives only 30% with his skill and has maximally 31.8% combo naturally. That means that he has 61.8% chance of giving extra turn to b.renji (if you set up your formation so that b.renji gets extra turns from kensei) your b.renji has 47% (thanks to kensei's skill)chance to give extra turn to main and your main has 30% chance to give extra turn to kensei. As you see formation with sexy yoruichi provide more stabile damage unless you are so lucky that even with 60% your b.renji will still get extra hit every turn

Add to this the fact that yoruichi hits a lot of harder and you should make more damage than with kensei. Of course it is just theory so i could miscalculate but the fact remains that you will spare 12k gold

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-10-31 19:32:58

[email protected] replied at 2016-10-31 19:23
since you have sexy yoru u shouldnt bother with kensei then, higher special growth on yoru+fury re ...

Interesting you are saying that i would do more damage with Yoruichi anyway if thats the case then i indeed don't need kensei. I guess i'l skip him alltogetherthen and only get berenji, then the question remains wich event would be the most interesting for him. Could also wait till ultimate charge wait till last hour and top up 8kgold if i could get 1st place. 150%rebate 24kgold is the best choice i think but wich event to buy berenji afhter that?

author: Miken97 time: 2016-10-31 19:45:19

JemoWhite replied at 2016-10-31 19:32
Interesting you are saying that i would do more damage with Yoruichi anyway if thats the case then ...

Remember that it is only my theory and i may be wrong ( I can' test it

). About getting b.renji, he is rather rare and there aren't many events with him but he may appear in thanksgiving event for some good price so better wait until then. Other than that i can't help

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-11-1 02:10:36

Miken97 replied at 2016-10-31 19:45
Remember that it is only my theory and i may be wrong ( I can' test it). About getting b.renji, ...

The way you tell it makes a lot off sense. Made me rethink about Yoruichi i just assumed kensei would be better qualified because off his combo rate and 100fury every turn. Unless someone else makes a better argument over why kensei could be better. I think i wil just skip him and only go with berenji instead for now.

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-11-1 10:31:35

Thought about it some more and gonna get kensei as well as originally planned. I came to the conclusion afther looking around a bit on bleach wiki and interesting talk with someone on my server that inn the end he would just ad a lot more then yoruichi because of his combo mod and bond. If someone has suggestions for the events i'd like to hear them!

author: Miken97 time: 2016-11-1 11:06:26

JemoWhite replied at 2016-11-1 10:31
Thought about it some more and gonna get kensei as well as originally planned. I came to the conclus ...

I did small research and it looks that the only spend events in which kensei has appeared are: dominators and lucky turntable (although i haven't seen him there for quite long time

). I haven't checked holiday events though because it will probably differ from last year. Btw i included his mods in my calculations and only forgot about bond (so he will have 70.8% combo instead of 61.8%) and if you look at yoruichi's mod that puts kensei at even bigger disadvantage so i don't really see how would he be any better. But after all it's your formation so it's your decision

. Plus after you buy him you can always compare which one is better and know it for sure instead of just knowing it in theory. Either way, have fun with your PvE formation

author: Lucky__Black time: 2016-11-1 11:15:51

Edited by Lucky__Black at 2016-11-1 16:30

Miken97 replied at 2016-11-1 16:06
I did small research and it looks that the only spend events in which kensei has appeared are: dom ...

could you please explain your fury regen comment?

I dont understand how sexy yoru can give 100% fury every round :/ thanks.

author: Lucky__Black time: 2016-11-1 11:24:07

Sexy yoruichi has 36.5% combo rate at best (natural and evo). Shini Kensei at best (including his skill) has 58% combo I believe (evo, skill, bond, mod). Btw I'm no expert at these partners, I don't own either of them, just going by what bleach wiki says (I might be making a mistake). Shini Kensei and Berserk Renji will skill every round after their first skill. Shini Kensei also gives 30% combo to brenji and the Main, whilst Sexy Yoru gives nothing to other assaulters. If extra rounds go off (depending on formation position) shini kensei and brenji will both get an extra skill (if they get the extra round) and Main (unless it's his skill) will get 50% fury, maybe 100% if crit, plus giving extra round (100% chance) to brenji (assuming the right formation position) if he has used his combo skill the previous round.

author: Lucky__Black time: 2016-11-1 11:33:29

Miken97 replied at 2016-11-1 16:06
I did small research and it looks that the only spend events in which kensei has appeared are: dom ...

oh right. With cute ori and urahara. For Ryoka at least, I wouldn't go without a tank, unless you have the stones/etc to make assaulters defensive. I think urahara, shini kensei, brenji, main and noza is a good ryoka formation. For ES a tank is usually not needed.

author: Miken97 time: 2016-11-1 11:39:57

Edited by Miken97 at 2016-11-1 11:41

Lucky__Black replied at 2016-11-1 11:15
could you explain your fury regen comment? I dont see how sexy yoru can give 100% fury every round ...

With formation kisuke+cute orihime+sexy yoruichi you normally get 25 fury+30 fury+25 fury and that obviously isn't enough. But if at least 2 of them have critic they can give 100 fury. I will show every possible case:
kisuke hasn't critic but s.yoruichi and c.orihime has: 25+37+45=107
c.orihime hasn't critic but kisuke and s.yoruichi has: 30+37+37=104
s.yoruichi hasn't critic but kisuke and c.orihime has: 25+37+45=107
As you see you need only 2 of them to have 100 fury every turn( and every of them can get over 100% critic rate). In battle it would look like this (let's say that everyone has 100% critic rate)
Turn 1
Kisuke is t1 and give t1 to c.orihime> c.orihime makes every assaulter t1>b.renji skills and get back 100 fury>main skills>s.yoru skill and eveyone gets 37 fury(actually only her and main need it since rest get back 100 fury with skill)
Turn 2
Kisuke gives 37 fury to everyone>c.orihime gives 45 fury to everyone>b.renji skills and get back 100 fury> main skills (since he got 37 fury from yoru, 45 from orihime and 37 from kisuke)and give extra turn to b.renji(if main is using 8th skill)>b.renji skills and get back 100 fury>s.yoru skills( she got 37 fury from herself in previous turn + 37 from kisuke+45from cute) and eveyone gets 37 fury
Turn 3 (looks exactly like turn 2)
Kisuke gives 37 fury to everyone>c.orihime gives 45 fury to everyone>b.renji skills and get back 100 fury> main skills (since he got 37 fury from yoru, 45 from orihime and 37 from kisuke)and give extra turn to b.renji(if main is using 8th skill)>b.renji skills and get back 100 fury>s.yoru skills( she got 37 fury from herself in previous turn + 37 from kisuke+45from cute) and eveyone gets 37 fury
And every next turn looks exactly same way. I hope everything what i wrote is clear

author: Lucky__Black time: 2016-11-1 12:00:34

Miken97 replied at 2016-11-1 16:39
With formation kisuke+cute orihime+sexy yoruichi you normally get 25 fury+30 fury+25 fury and that ...

Thank you very much.

author: Djroman time: 2016-11-1 15:28:29

ultra hero , since you get them for free.

author: JemoWhite time: 2016-11-2 10:03:27

Edited by JemoWhite at 2016-11-2 10:52

Miken97 replied at 2016-11-1 11:39
With formation kisuke+cute orihime+sexy yoruichi you normally get 25 fury+30 fury+25 fury and that ...

You just have changed my mind again about getting kensei because off the looks off it he wouldn't improve my pve team so i'm not getting him. Thanks for the information wow all thats left is to decide wher to get berenji. I'm not sure yet wich event but the best way to me now seem to do ultimate charge. I'l wait till the last hour and if nobody has topped up higher then 8k i'l give it a shot.

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