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author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 11:09:22 Title: Jakka or Jugram?

Now that Jugram is finnaly down to 30k im leaning towards him, but would like to know from somebody who does use him - is he a good counter to Jakka or is it still better to counter RJ with another RJ? Im using Tensa and my supporters are Senju + Kirijii/Unohana. Ps: my main purpose is to counter RJ users somehow.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-27 11:12:03

mutilate is your friend

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 11:28:27

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-7-27 11:12
mutilate is your friend

Well, Jugram clear debuffs if i understod it right, i think mutilate is also a debuff. Also i dont care so much for 14% mutilate, it is burn DOT that freaks me out.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-27 11:30:46

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 11:28
Well, Jugram clear debuffs if i understod it right, i think mutilate is also a debuff. Also i dont ...

the reason I say mutilate is your friend is because mutilate isn't based off of damage, it's based off max HP, and with RJ's 150% def buff, base damage won't be stellar usually

and I think I've heard peeps say that Jugram does not clear mutilate, yet I believe he does clear burn

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 11:35:48

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-7-27 11:30
the reason I say mutilate is your friend is because mutilate isn't based off of damage, it's based ...

So in other words RJ still outshines everything?

I probably hate RJ more than anyone else, i'd agree on anything that can counter it, just to not use it.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-27 11:39:50

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 11:35
So in other words RJ still outshines everything? I probably hate RJ more than anyone else, i'd a ...

KS is supposed to be a good counter to him... but personally I find hard core healing with huge defense and good physical attack to be usefull... honestly I'm planning to tank out my TSI to the max and try to take top 5 in my server group... but I think I'm already far above the next Hyorinmaru user in my server group... Now to take out RJs and the very few Katens that are above me
(I'm ranked 11th ATM and the next few places above me I think I know how to take them out)

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 12:13:03

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-7-27 11:39
KS is supposed to be a good counter to him... but personally I find hard core healing with huge d ...

What is KS? Im less lucky with my group, top 10 are mostly all RJ users that i stand no chance against and there is 3-4 RJ guys below me that will eventually beat me soon. ps: i dont rush CSB so i dunno where im in my group at the moment..

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-27 12:36:30

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 12:13
What is KS? Im less lucky with my group, top 10 are mostly all RJ users that i stand no chance agai ...

KS k suigetsu from inferno stones... but really, if you are going to beat an RJ user you will need insane defense and good HP regen for realz, otherwise you are pissing into the wind usually

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 13:21:49

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-7-27 13:24

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-7-27 12:36
KS k suigetsu from inferno stones... but really, if you are going to beat an RJ user you will n ...

Im not sure, do i have to be slower with Kyoka to remove DOT? - in that case it is stupid since Kyoka is naturally much faster. Ps: i dont think DEF matters much against RJ, burn DOT bypasses defence so it is mainly about HP.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-27 13:34:34

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 13:21
Im not sure, do i have to be slower with Kyoka to remove DOT? - in that case it is stupid since Kyo ...

burn does not bypass defense, but mutilate does... mutilate is based on max HP, burn off or original damage

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 13:45:32

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-7-27 13:34
burn does not bypass defense, but mutilate does... mutilate is based on max HP, burn off or orig ...

Are you sure? I'm not 100% on that one but from what i've know in every game dot bypasses immune and def, it is based on normal damage % tho but is converted to dot type. Ps: resistance should help against dot damage, but we dont have such stat in our game

author: MylarHyrule time: 2017-7-27 14:12:29

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 13:45
Are you sure? I'm not 100% on that one but from what i've know in every game dot bypasses immune an ...

the dot is based on how much damage was done originally, so if your def goes up after that first hit, the dot does not go down, but if defense raises before original damage happens, then the dot is based on a smaller number, thus lower dot, hope that helps

author: MasterOfBonkai time: 2017-7-27 15:27:09

Hash is a fucking badass...If you stack him enough, RJ can't even scratch u..The heal and defence is insane...I have beaten many RJ user like that

author: mayuri1177 time: 2017-7-27 18:12:29

Burn damage is not reduced by defense, it is based off of team's total attack power. When someone takes burn damage from my RJ when I am in ToT formation, they will take over 1.43m from just the burn, whether it is a stacked Kukaku or have paper defense.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 18:20:40

MasterOfBonkai replied at 2017-7-27 15:27
Hash is a fucking badass...If you stack him enough, RJ can't even scratch u..The heal and defence is ...

Jup, he is solid partner, will most likely get him today or tomorow - just wana understand how the new event works first.
By the way do you have any clue on how lucky draw in anniversary works? It says that player can join in each round once and it takes 20 people for round to finish. Can i spend 30k at once or can i only spend 100 and wait until round clears.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 18:24:57

Edited by [email protected] at 2017-7-27 18:31

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-7-27 18:12
Burn damage is not reduced by defense, it is based off of team's total attack power. When someone t ...

I know, that's what i always throught. DOT dps is basically more or less the same in every rpg game, but Mylar has been playing his own game of Nozas, blocks and unicorns

Ps: do you know if DOT will apply on my team if Jugram cast his skill first or does he have to be slower than RJ?

author: mayuri1177 time: 2017-7-27 18:40:33

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 18:24
I know, that's what i always throught. DOT dps is basically more or less the same in every rpg game ...

Hasch can not heal or prevent the burn or mutilate statuses.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 19:00:25

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-7-27 18:40
Hasch can not heal or prevent the burn or mutilate statuses.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightr ...

Hand me your shoulder for a minute

i cant get him anyway, it seem spending is not working. But thanks, you saved my build right now. I always throught that Shield removes all debuff.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2017-7-27 19:09:14

[email protected] replied at 2017-7-27 19:00
Hand me your shoulder for a minute i cant get him anyway, it seem spending is not working. But ...

The only thing that can remove all things is Kyoka Suigetsu. Hasch's shield removes some things like chaos, fury restriction and silence.

The only other thing I've seen remove mutilate, may be a bug. Poison will overwrite mutilate instead of being added as an additional DOT.

author: [email protected] time: 2017-7-27 19:38:25

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-7-27 19:09
The only thing that can remove all things is Kyoka Suigetsu. Hasch's shield removes some things l ...

Yeah, i saw him removing my chaos & fury restriction so i trought that he should counter RJ's burn aswell. Well, good to know..

author: Devvoke2 time: 2017-7-27 20:37:28

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