Red Byakuya or Yamamoto?

Itachi_Kenpachi

Qual é o melhor para pvp?

Melonraider321

trakiner replied at 2017-8-12 07:28
Neither, they both suck! And Yamamoto? Hahaha, please, that shit is useless nowadays!

Why the f*ck r u back?
Thot u were banned for being retarded, now ur doing it again
wish trump could learn from mistakes

X-Zero13

jimmycricketwin5298 replied at 2017-8-17 12:57
For those that haven't used Byakuya in void before, I can understand why you would pick Yama or are  ...

All I can say is that when void was still new, my entire damage consisted only of the zan's damage and yama's burn. I had a Byakuya back then (who I used in regular pvp before I got yama), but even with my back-then best gear setup, his death mod made one-digit damage.

As of today, I'm usually grateful as long as I hit the 1mio dmg per attack in void and yama's burn does it's part there. For that, I make sure that it requires 3 enemy attacks (1 for each of my lanes) to take me down, so that 3 partners get afflicted by burn. (for Yhwach, I'm going for a different approach tho)

Even tho someone said that no ex-frags would be needed, I'd still be curious about a / the Byakuya that does like 2mio+ damage with his death skill in Void.

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X-Zero13 replied at 2017-8-17 11:16
They both have their pro's and cons...

Red Byakuya

byak's death mod, even without any exclu frags on him, will do way more dmg than yama could ever do,void mobs block every normal/special attack, while dmg from death mods like byak and brenji arent gettin blocked, also i see byaks regular special with speed reduction sort of like noza fossi, sometimes it helps sometimes it doesnt

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jimmycricketwin5298 replied at 2017-8-18 01:57
For those that haven't used Byakuya in void before, I can understand why you would pick Yama or are  ...

You have a point there. So, byakuya will be better in void compared to yama.

jimmycricketwin5298

For those that haven't used Byakuya in void before, I can understand why you would pick Yama or are on the fence. However, I started using Byakuya about a month ago, and lemme tell you this. I used to do about 500k damage in void even with the 25% attack bonus. Switched to Byakuya's death mod, now I do 3mil damage on average, with 5mil 25% bonus 2 voids ago.

So you tell me if your Yama burn improves damage by a lot, because that burn doesn't work unless all your partners survive one round and the enemy attacks as burn only is inflicted on the turn of them attacking.

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X-Zero13 replied at 2017-8-18 00:51
That's probably not a bad idea, but ask the thread opener why he wants to chose .

As for me, I  ...

Byakuya can be replaced by any ubp assaulter though.

X-Zero13

[email protected] replied at 2017-8-17 11:25
Why don't use yama and byakuya in void together?

That's probably not a bad idea, but ask the thread opener why he wants to chose .

As for me, I just don't want to go through the effort of building up a decent Byakuya (again). I got other, better partners to put work in now .

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X-Zero13 replied at 2017-8-18 00:16
They both have their pro's and cons...

Red Byakuya

Why don't use yama and byakuya in void together?

X-Zero13

They both have their pro's and cons...

Red Byakuya
Pros:
-easier to obtain base partner
-faster to mod
-death skill mod (good for Void, it seems)
-can equip red hogu
-with ex-skill also usefull in pve
-potentially higher stats due to growth rates as red partner

Red Byakuya cons:
-turning him red might take a while (unless enough RR from events is obtained)
-rather mediocre skill in regards of damage and usefulness; only really usefull in PVP when speed is a crucial issue and when paired with an apppropriate, speed-enhancing zan (Senbon, Sode, Tensa)
-pulling out the potential of his high growth rates requires much/strong enhancing materials (high lvl stones, hogu, etc.)

Yama pros:
-better skill (higher growth rate/damage; burn, heal and fury restriction give additional advantages in PVP)*
-will probably have better stats most of the time (especially when both partners just have started been worked on)

Yama cons:
-slower to mod
-no red Hogu
-slow partner (can be a plus, depending on strategy)
-rather little use in PVE

*I also beg to differ with Mylar about Yama's use in Void. With his burn, Yama can do quite the damage. A notable part of my damage in void is inflicted by Yama's burn.