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author: NNatsu time: 2016-4-18 02:19:27 Title: The 4th Reincarnation Is Extremely Expensive

Edited by NNatsu at 2016-4-18 02:21

Prepare to give up literally months of work to get to R4.

From level 140 to level 100.

author: Shaffney time: 2016-4-18 02:30:24

Don't forget that equipment is also an issue? Or can you wear lvl 120+ equipment when you reinc back to lvl 100?

author: criminal238 time: 2016-4-18 02:59:04

damn, well better start stacking that gold reshi.

author: Uzumakia1 time: 2016-4-18 03:03:13

Lmao. Damn... people wont recan... not because they cant... but cos they cant afford it

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-4-18 03:32:43

Back to collecting gold reishi it is.
My OCD can't handle me not being capped on all partners

author: siger100 time: 2016-4-18 03:40:48

Brahmastra replied at 2016-4-18 03:32
Back to collecting gold reishi it is.
My OCD can't handle me not being capped on all partners

how about her skill ?? really greatfull ?

author: Mojito1985 time: 2016-4-18 03:43:36

i have a question, since you guys so far you will know

what happens when you go to the second level, i see different bonus effects there, but can we not only upgrade the one we got first, how does that system works if you are aiming for an effect in particular?

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-4-18 04:04:30

siger100 replied at 2016-4-18 09:40
how about her skill ?? really greatfull ?

It happens a lot so the % are definitely broken, but ya it's good.

author: siger100 time: 2016-4-18 04:15:24

Brahmastra replied at 2016-4-18 04:04
It happens a lot so the % are definitely broken, but ya it's good.

i give my reincar to yama and still lv 1
and bonus effect is cast normal attack to all enemies..
is that great ?

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-4-18 04:32:30

siger100 replied at 2016-4-18 10:15
i give my reincar to yama and still lv 1
and bonus effect is cast normal attack to all enemies..
i ...

Ya that works good for PVP, 300% damage might work better if it hits all though

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-18 04:33:45

lmao
another reason why this system is so fucked up
the main purpose of this was supposed to be making your main a bit more useful, a power house if possible, but instead they made to worse... no fucking sain person will ever reincarnation their main past lvl 3 because im pretty sure nobody wants to give up a whole year and a half of work to level up the main
instead everyone will focus on the other partners because they can at least speed the leveling up process by exp book.
this is kind disappointing. .. like really disappointing. ... not only the leveling up but the lame ass look that u get after reincarnation -_- ..... It's about time to quit this game and switch to UN lmao

author: oquz599 time: 2016-4-18 04:36:06

Brahmastra replied at 2016-4-18 04:32
Ya that works good for PVP, 300% damage might work better if it hits all though

I tried 2 times for %300 damage but i didnt get it.

How many times should i try ? It's all about luck ?

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-4-18 04:50:52

oquz599 replied at 2016-4-18 10:36
I tried 2 times for %300 damage but i didnt get it.

How many times should i try ? It's all about ...

It's pure RNG.
I got shield on my main like 5 times then it changed to 300%

author: Sylencer90 time: 2016-4-18 05:35:32

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author: theunknown404 time: 2016-4-18 08:58:55

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-4-18 05:35
Oh jesus xD. Where do you pull those fragments off? Im still stuck on 3 lv 1 reinc partners. Inferno ...

Basically, he finished Nightmare first day and reset it twice each day with gold.

author: Evild4nte time: 2016-4-18 09:26:30

At a higher level it should be around 5 - 6 level for this reincarnation, which is not so bad.

author: Sylencer90 time: 2016-4-18 11:46:05

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author: shirakawa2007 time: 2016-4-18 13:46:22

Three times my main triggered the "300% damage chance" against Gin in Hollow Soul Map and the three times the game got literally "frozen". So, win but no chance to continue. Not happy at all...

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-4-18 17:41:17

O.o what the heck? Why is it dropping you from 139 to 100, and it only drops my senju from 125 to 100
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author: polarisx7 time: 2016-4-18 17:44:25

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author: Devvoke2 time: 2016-4-18 17:50:28

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author: NNatsu time: 2016-4-18 19:29:05

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-4-18 17:41
O.o what the heck? Why is it dropping you from 139 to 100, and it only drops my senju from 125 to 10 ...

I really don't know, right now she'll drop from 139 to 103 it's saying..

author: Jinkanzaki time: 2016-4-18 20:25:42

Isn't that a huge dps loss when you drop that many levels?

author: NNatsu time: 2016-4-18 21:07:13

Jinkanzaki replied at 2016-4-18 20:25
Isn't that a huge dps loss when you drop that many levels?

Forrrr sure.

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-4-18 21:18:24

Suzuken replied at 2016-4-18 04:33
lmao
another reason why this system is so fucked up
the main purpose of this was supposed to be maki ...

Taking mine to max. I really don't see the big deal. It is just experience. Personally, they should have it set so you must do Main to rank 2 in order to do partners and so on so no one could speed it by keeping main at rank 1, level to 150 and then max out the partners. Anyways, before others bitch about the experience lost doing it or how I'm stupid for planning on doing it to max, I completely get ya but refer to the photo below.

author: Tailedemonking time: 2016-4-18 21:57:59

Instead of maxing my main i have three characters on lv1 want my whole team reincarnated before main is lv2. Needs more silver for exp books before I can get my partners to lv2.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-4-18 22:17:28

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-18 21:18
Taking mine to max. I really don't see the big deal. It is just experience. Personally, they should ...

You most likely don't see the big deal because you don't lose thousands on each stat with every level you drop. For example my senju dropped 14 levels and lost 50k speed and attack. Plus the amount of exp to get her back to level is going to take me weeks or even months to gather up. A 50k loss to all of your stats across the board is enormous. So no, it is not

just experience

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-4-18 22:29:12

Edited by ShadowConsortium at 2016-4-18 22:35

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-4-18 22:17
You most likely don't see the big deal because you don't lose thousands on each stat with every le ...

Oh noes you lose some stats and still beat everyone (I forget who was the strongest it's been awhile) while you need to blow silver to epic book her back up. For you, it's more then experience. For me, it's just that experience but also at the same time I'm used to games that are so much worst in experience grinding it's far from funny.

Either way, the real chat would be you guys trying to justify doing this new system for the overall power you will get in the long run instead of keeping your current levels and power while letting us newcomers use this system to catch up. Every new system they add will put the older players at some disadvantage (in this case you lose levels to gain even more damage then before well once it doesn't freeze fights and such).

I mean I could also bitch about the payable exploit system gogames added into the game for the players (inherit) who can top up to speed mod those OP partners when they should in fact take long to mod due to power they offer, but this is the only time I mentioned anything about it

Edit: When I mean exploit, I don't think they had in mind you guys farming and modding the other partners just to farm fragments (even though your spending gold for it).

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-19 04:48:29

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-19 05:18
Taking mine to max. I really don't see the big deal. It is just experience. Personally, they should ...

not even gonna reply with a smartass comment this time, this argument is a failure from the beginning if you think that it's "just exp"

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-19 04:49:41

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-19 06:29
Oh noes you lose some stats and still beat everyone (I forget who was the strongest it's been awhil ...

Edit: When I mean exploit, I don't think they had in mind you guys farming and modding the other partners just to farm fragments (even though your spending gold for it).

lmao....

author: AsunaChidori time: 2016-4-19 05:15:55

Edited by AsunaChidori at 2016-4-19 05:17

It feels like they really dropped the ball on this when you compare it to how UN/NC/AN do their RI. This whole system is crap. Def not the right way to go about it. Just another crazy P2W system that will benefit the huge spenders (more resets, more exp, etc, etc).

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2016-4-19 05:41:13

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-18 22:29
Oh noes you lose some stats and still beat everyone (I forget who was the strongest it's been awhil ...

Ah yes, I forgot you're an f2p and think everything should be weighted in favor of f2p's. Nevermind, I already know exactly how this conversation would go if we kept at it and I'm not into having a circuitous argument right now.

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-4-19 06:49:07

AsunaChidori replied at 2016-4-19 11:15
It feels like they really dropped the ball on this when you compare it to how UN/NC/AN do their RI. ...

Yes this system is different but then again we don't exactly copy everything from Naruto. They intended to make PVP more balanced and involved a luck factor rather than just straight out better stats, skills growths etc.

Honestly this system is just pay2skip for spenders. I personally just want to be done with it rather than gaining and dropping levels for months on all my partners.
Besides that within a few weeks most people already have their whole team R1'd which pretty much makes them done as well. From that point everyone will just stack 1 partner since that's what most people do anyway.

author: dionysvs time: 2016-4-19 06:55:22

im more curious about 4-5... can you even have enough exp at lv159 to do it?

author: tytheboy time: 2016-4-19 12:03:36

criminal238 replied at 2016-4-18 02:59
damn, well better start stacking that gold reshi.

why gold reishi?
you need golden reishi fr the xp scrolls (i know that)
lots of ways to get scrolls ;-) events, alliance campaign (witch for info is fre in all aspect exept for time)

author: criminal238 time: 2016-4-19 12:51:47

tytheboy replied at 2016-4-19 12:03
why gold reishi?
you need golden reishi fr the xp scrolls (i know that)
lots of ways to get scro ...

Because it is gonna take a lot of exp scrolls to get that amount of exp back.

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-4-19 13:06:26

Edited by ShadowConsortium at 2016-4-19 13:19

Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-4-19 05:41
Ah yes, I forgot you're an f2p and think everything should be weighted in favor of f2p's. Nevermin ...

Actually, Vip 3. Ah yes, you support this game almost as much as BWG does which I thank you for. In any case, if you don't like the system then don't bother like most don't with the main character evolution. Also, no I don't think anything should be weighted in the favor of F2P because honestly, with the exception of a few things that are made shinigami agent and some lower VIP stuff, the F2P game is just fine. When I speak about stuff I'm not really saying it should be more so for high vip like yourself or even for low vip like myself, but in general. However, I will say this again and bold it out for you because honestly everyone views it differently which well opinions are a lot like assholes...everyone has one. For those already near the level cap and actually care about stats it's more then experience, for the rest of us who don't give 2 shits either way, it's just experience.

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-4-19 13:09:05

Suzuken replied at 2016-4-19 04:48
not even gonna reply with a smartass comment this time, this argument is a failure from the beginn ...

Sorry for the double post but you guys care way too much about stats as older players. Yea it can be the meaning between beating someone or losing but really if you don't like this system then simply don't use it. Everyone else that plans on doing this is losing the experience, stats, BP due to level drops but only a handful seem to be bitching about it?

author: NNatsu time: 2016-4-19 13:15:46

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-19 13:09
Sorry for the double post but you guys care way too much about stats as older players. Yea it can ...

No one is bitching about it, we were simply stating that it DOES take a lot of stats away, if stating facts is bitching then what the fuck would what you're doing be?

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-4-19 13:23:00

Edited by ShadowConsortium at 2016-4-19 13:24

Bitching about those who want to state facts about how they don't like this system? But ya, sorry when I read something along the lines of

"lmao
another reason why this system is so fucked up
the main purpose of this was supposed to be making your main a bit more useful, a power house if possible, but instead they made to worse... no fucking sain person will ever reincarnation their main past lvl 3 because im pretty sure nobody wants to give up a whole year and a half of work to level up the main
instead everyone will focus on the other partners because they can at least speed the leveling up process by exp book.
this is kind disappointing. .. like really disappointing. ... not only the leveling up but the lame ass look that u get after reincarnation -_- ..... It's about time to quit this game and switch to UN lmao"

I don't really see any facts unless everyone agrees the system is fucked up and they should quit and go play UN?

Anyways, like I said before, don't like it...don't play it.

author: Suzuken time: 2016-4-19 13:25:43

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-19 21:09
Sorry for the double post but you guys care way too much about stats as older players. Yea it can ...

I'll try to make it as simple as i can.
Like i said in my first post, the main purpose for this was supposed to be making the main stronger, but as Brah said we Copy everything from Naruto so Yea that's cool, what's not cool is that this system Will push the player further away from the main because the exp lose is absolutely ridiculous
Why is it Ridiculous ?
1- First of all you will loose a lot of stats on which is already weak so that'd be bad
2- You have to get your main leveled THEN level up the other partners, you can easily level up the other partners ( not so easy as it seems) but still doable in a reasonable amount of time while the main could take months if not years ( talking about rein 4-5)
3- like i said above, nothing changed about the fact that the main is absolute shit.
Why am i complaining ?
I have the right to complain since i spent more than a year and a half playing this game and i was expecting much from the new system but i ended up swimming in my disappointment poll
4- With this system, they were supposed the make the matched more enjoyable and not first hit first win shit with stacked as fuck senju, but the they ended up doing is they made the PVP is worse, pvp is absolute garbage now, " new player and vip3- " like you will have absolutely no chance against mid-vip who can skip battles and gain exp faster, Old players will have a huge advantage because they have high levels and A LOT of them are already at lvl 150-159 which means they ca reincarnate all the way up to the 4th level easily
The game will turn into one partner formation, the pvp will be ruined because of this shit, AND the motivation to play this game will start going lower and lower for those who don't go balls on the walls with their wallets here.
That's my personal opinion of course.
How this system should have been ?
it should have been Main> partners, you should be able to rein to lvl 5 on other partners while you are lvl 1 on main, the exp reduction is too huge for this to work so it needs to be at least 5-6 times less if not more for the high level or change the condition .
that being said, fuck it. i quit. LOL

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-4-19 13:36:43

Edited by ShadowConsortium at 2016-4-19 16:33

To make the main stronger is also the reason behind exclusive while also breathing new life in old partners I'm guessing so they don't need to rush red tavern anytime soon. Much like this system you can get some pretty nasty effects that should kick in at a decent rate to not do this even with the experience lost. Yea it takes awhile to re level but all reward and no effort would make it a dull system geared to those already near the level cap who can at you say max partners then worry about main. Play time really serves no factor in being entitled to complain in which case I might of took a 6 month break but played longer then you?

I do agree the pvp system is pretty much shit right now and has been since they released the red partners. And it has driven players to be one trick ponies when it comes to "let me get a stacked Senju or Hiki and I'll beat you", then vs others it's all about speed, no real thinking goes into their formation just base it off of 1 partner pretty much giving you the win much like lower level pvp when your fighting someone with Kirinji (huge advantage at early levels). Also, isn't that how the current system works anyways? Rank 1 on main, level up to 150, then book partners to last reincarnate? In which case it would be a silver sink for a time then switch over to a experience sink for when you do your main finally. However, it you must Rank up your main character before you can do partners then it would while still giving a advantage to the older higher level players..put everyone on a more even play field.

Anyways, cheer up and listen to this might help. https://youtu.be/sFukyIIM1XI

Edit: Forgot to mention evolution for main character was also added to help and you get some very nice buffs by doing it as well but it seems not a lot of people are using the system for what it's intended for and just selling off the material for money which is good as well I guess.

Edit: Figured I'd also add this little bit onto what was already said and this will be my last post about this topic (I know your all are like yay!). After some thinking ya, you guys do get the chance to complain about a system and how you might not like it no one will say you can't. However keep this in mind when you do. Not everyone will share your views and will post much like I did. However if you just base your complaints on your own account then the bigger picture it comes off as selfish and serves nothing. Bigger picture this systems offers a lot.

author: asunayuki time: 2016-4-23 16:50:24

You are only level 4 ?

author: frtommy3 time: 2016-4-28 04:58:17

Hello,
I don't understand the third line in reincarnation.

"After the Main Character was reincarnated, you can receive certain Epic EXP scroll everyday!"

What's reincarnation level my main require? and where i should receive this Epic Exp Scrolls ?

Coz i could Reincarnate my main to Lv2 now, but could be useless if i need lv.4 to get some exp scrolls. Than i will reincarnate all the rest of the team.
Let me know.
Thank you

author: frtommy3 time: 2016-4-28 13:25:58

somebody can reply ?

author: NNatsu time: 2016-4-28 13:37:25

frtommy3 replied at 2016-4-28 04:58
Hello,
I don't understand the third line in reincarnation.

Reincarnate him to Lv. 1, you get 10 free stones everyday. They aren't experience books just more reincarnation stones.

author: frtommy3 time: 2016-4-28 13:40:39

NNatsu replied at 2016-4-28 19:37
Reincarnate him to Lv. 1, you get 10 free stones everyday. They aren't experience books just more ...

Ah, was too good to be true XD

Ok, thank you

author: [email protected] time: 2016-6-27 12:40:47

ShadowConsortium replied at 2016-4-20 02:36
To make the main stronger is also the reason behind exclusive while also breathing new life in old p ...

So, is it advisable to reincarnate when I hit lv110? I am focusing on pve right now, if I reincarnate, I will deal 30% less damage to ryoka and ES.

author: ShadowConsortium time: 2016-6-27 15:22:51

[email protected] replied at 2016-6-27 12:40
So, is it advisable to reincarnate when I hit lv110? I am focusing on pve right now, if I reincarn ...

Depends on your situation. First time isn't much of a difference really so, I'd say go ahead. Depending on the armor set your currently using should really make up your mind about when to reincarnate. Level 100 ultimate sets wait and do it at level 110. If your using level 110 armor sets wait until level 115 so your able to infuse them and such.

The rank 2 and beyond is what will really hit you in terms of experience and stats but it your choice on if you want to level up to 159 then reincarnate so you lose less levels (since you have a ton of experience to burn off) or do it like me at each level requirement which gives me more time to work on accessories and partners.

author: Brahmastra time: 2016-6-27 17:08:53

[email protected] replied at 2016-6-27 18:40
So, is it advisable to reincarnate when I hit lv110? I am focusing on pve right now, if I reincarn ...

Right now you deal 30% less damage to everything. Reincarnating makes you deal more damage and increases your defense.

author: maniacpkt time: 2016-6-27 17:10:52

Shaffney replied at 2016-4-18 02:30
Don't forget that equipment is also an issue? Or can you wear lvl 120+ equipment when you reinc back ...

you can still equip higher level stuff after reincarnation

author: maniacpkt time: 2016-6-27 17:13:49

[email protected] replied at 2016-6-27 12:40
So, is it advisable to reincarnate when I hit lv110? I am focusing on pve right now, if I reincarn ...

I'd wait for level 125. 120 so you can get noza, and 125 so you can move to the next soul palace. but that's just me

author: [email protected] time: 2016-6-27 18:21:35

Ok, thanks a lot.

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