faracorn replied at 2018-6-9 02:48 static/image/common/back.gif
i would put noza at A grade or even in A+ if you combo him with hyorin. his big flaw is that he is a ...
The thing is dude.This list was composed of all the characters in the meta where there two things for you to do if you want to survive either be strong and up to date with stats yourself or have some ability to provide amazing support for the team and frankly he fails both fronts and getting 2-4 million BP is no longer difficult or an accurate representation of someones level or power anymore and a stacked noza can help you in PVP early on perhaps and may help in a server with no high VIPS(OR with smart ones) but is a strong server/realm there going to be plenty of people to counter it and he is just to outdated of a partner to keep throwing resources on him.
One more point when considering VIP 5-6 the time has changed a bit back when these guys were godly the rebate was horrible so in a way you wanted 20K gold you had to top up 20K gold directly nothing else so there was not enough now if you are a VIP 5 that is a 5K gold top up and for example you top up during bargain sale that becomes an easy 13-14K gold and even more depending on events and if it is VIP 6 for ultima included in the case you can make plenty more and get more stuff if you do it smartly so getting partners that are better at the VIP level you can even get these guys at is not that hard and even UBP is throwing better partners every other month than these two.
SolKnight replied at 2018-6-9 10:29 static/image/common/back.gif
The thing is dude.This list was composed of all the characters in the meta where there two things ...
it's like poro said its depens on how much money do you want to invest in the game. if you want to be vip 4 or vip 5 Noza i think is the one of your choise. if you are a big spender noza is useless vs the new meta and new vanguards . i personaly am vip 5 and i am not planning to top up . For me noza is sure choise as vanguard .
faracorn replied at 2018-6-9 12:10 static/image/common/back.gif
it's like poro said its depens on how much money do you want to invest in the game. if you want to ...
Dude it is completely up to you who you want to use and how you use them.
My point is just that this list is composed for the entire meta and all partners in it so i simply cannot put noza higher than he should be in comparison to others.
He is still a good options and if you want to use him he can be good.
This list
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ah 3rd best joke of 2018 is always giving me a laugh
SolKnight replied at 2018-6-9 00:22 static/image/common/back.gif
Like Mayuri said Block is actually better than a defense buff since no partner outright has the ab ...
but! everyone is running ks.having bwb which is the fastest partner, makes you atk first which means all the buffs debuffs he provides are actually gone after his turn is over,considering the opponents ks will come to clear everything out.and in no way bwb is gonna sweep the whole team with his first atk.so a team with high def will survive his atk and even the second supports atk, IF your own fastest support doesnt out speed already the opponents second fastest sup.so with you clearing nothing and the enemy clearing everything on you, you re left with a "naked team" whereas thats not the case for your enemy.and at this point its probably the assaulters turn which are sure to clear the board with your enemy having the upper hand.
Edited by SolKnight at 2018-6-11 04:28
XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 22:16 static/image/common/back.gif
but! everyone is running ks.having bwb which is the fastest partner, makes you atk first which mea ...
This is why you pair BWB with a good assaulter he gives a 40% speed buff to the assault line so with correct investment making them P much as fast as byak. obviously strats have upsides and downsides but KS there is no point in the other buffs since if you are considering people with KS already they defo you have a Assaulter strong enough to Use with BWB to its full potential at that stage and how that guy is setup most teams with equal BP will be dead on turn one in the first place.
Aside from this KS stands a problem for most partners you can think of heck it makes Askin absolutely worthless but i am not going to put it in the lowest tier and with BWBs one bang ability he actually comes the closest to counter it.
Edit:One more thing to consider is if you do not have the ability to kill the oponent after KS execution BWB can causually setup his own buffs onces again without issue on top of that he both heals and reduces B def when his so if you do even one shot him he puts your team in a good enough spot.
Edited by XSuperSaiyanX at 2018-6-11 04:59
SolKnight replied at 2018-6-11 04:22 static/image/common/back.gif
This is why you pair BWB with a good assaulter he gives a 40% speed buff to the assault line so wi ...
there is no way any assaulter (at that stage of the game) will be faster than your own supports.i dont care how many buffs they get,your fastest support should be outspeeding any assaulter easily at all times.which means you re still playing second(since enemy bwb will be faster) having the upper hand from your ks actually doing the work and your opponent's ks being wasted and having major advantage when the assaulters turn come (for both teams) when his are gonna be naked versus yours .cause like i said no way bwb will clear the field round 1 considering vs's against fair even teams.so it all depends on the assaulter's speed and who's gonna atk first but only raw speed stat without the bwb buff or any other buff for that matter since the ks will clear it.and chances are the one that goes second(and his fastest sup will play after bwb) will have some type that buffs or debuffs in some way and his will be sticking around making even small differences in your maybe stronger assaulters completely turned over.which makes this fight a little hp missing naked and/or debuffed team against a little hp missing buffed team and like i said its turn for the assaulters and at that point someones team is going down but will be too late.in which case at that point you d probably be wishing for some flat def auras instead.:P thats how i see it and why im not completely convinced over bwb yet.im like 90% there but that 10% kinda keeps me from getting him xP but im not denying he's one of the best if not the best all around partner.
XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-11 04:40 static/image/common/back.gif
there is no way any assaulter (at that stage of the game) will be faster than your own supports.i d ...
Dude i am not saying your assaulter will be faster than your support but how you face your opponents will vary as 40% speed buff is not a small amount no matter how you look at it a good assaulter with a proper build will be able to outspeed most forms just enough(Specially if you use someone will B shun for aura) to actually move first and with BWB buffs knock out and the other fact of speed manipulation exists where you can make BWB fast or slow enough to avoid KS just by enough(And if the oponent has KS you can have aswell so anything there support can pull also gets whiped and byak is ready to destroy) and bieng faster allows you to have a greater option range of how much speed you can end up with as if you opponent is far drastically slower that the speed cannot be lowered than you than the assaulter is defo gonna outspeed with buff and essentially wipe out more than half of the enemy team if not just outright KO it entirely.
With KS zan you also have to consider the before mentioned speed manipulation which alot of players do now days and is common and Easy enough for consideration where most of the time BWB can just be made slow enough to be slower than enemy support and faster than rest of the enemy team as it has no threat of a faster assaulter really being an issue also he has block as a passive not just by skill same so more often that not that block on assaulter will activate and hit supports and i dont need to mention that most supports wont survive hits from well built assaulters
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