Brahmastra Publish time 2015-11-14 12:40:17

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-11-14 18:39 static/image/common/back.gif
PRAY WITH ME BRAHA FOR AN OP PVE ASSAULTER SENJUMARU XD

yes we freakin need this

SeiryuSky Publish time 2015-11-14 12:41:49

Brahmastra replied at 2015-11-14 12:40 static/image/common/back.gif
yes we freakin need this

I HELLA HATE THE FACT CN IS RELEASING ONLY PVP ORIENTED PARTNERS AFTER B RENJI LOL WE NEED SENJUMARU TO ATTACK VAN 500% xd

Raeace Publish time 2015-11-14 12:41:58

We need 1000% damage growth rate vanguard whose talent decreases his damage to 200% growth and 5th mod that removes the talent Kappa

I_MIKE_I Publish time 2015-11-14 12:51:55

Edited by I_MIKE_I at 2015-11-14 12:52

BurakCinar replied at 2015-11-14 12:38 static/image/common/back.gif
yep-...- ichibei made for no reason LOL
Depends, Ichbei has bonds with Hikifune, who'd make him invulnerable to Oetsu's skill if she's faster... at the same time, Hikifune doesn't do crap to VG.

So... to a fair degree, Oetsu is a counter to Hikifune's counter.

Ichibei has a mod that makes +100% atk to the entire team on dead, but afaik TSI got nothing like that...

tbh, I'd be a lot more upset if I'd have bought TSI instead of Ichibei.


Edit: I do hope for a good Senjumaru Assault... either a PVE monster or something really fast, so my Zangetsu would actually be worth keeping for PvP.

BurakCinar Publish time 2015-11-14 13:01:28

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-11-14 12:51 static/image/common/back.gif
Depends, Ichbei has bonds with Hikifune, who'd make him invulnerable to Oetsu's skill if she's fast ...

how does it make him invulnerable to his skill? whats the bond i mean

I_MIKE_I Publish time 2015-11-14 13:20:24

BurakCinar replied at 2015-11-14 13:01 static/image/common/back.gif
how does it make him invulnerable to his skill? whats the bond i mean

No no... i just meant that Ichibei wont go down from Oetsu if Hikifune has her invincibility on him and they have bonds. So it's not like Ichibei was a total waste as some people say.

SeiryuSky Publish time 2015-11-14 13:27:43

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-11-14 13:20 static/image/common/back.gif
No no... i just meant that Ichibei wont go down from Oetsu if Hikifune has her invincibility on hi ...

and if someone has a faster nimaya you're done

I_MIKE_I Publish time 2015-11-14 13:34:01

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-11-14 13:27 static/image/common/back.gif
and if someone has a faster nimaya you're done

no, nimaya's speed just has to be higher than that of the enemy vg, your hikifune has to be faster than the enemy one.

SeiryuSky Publish time 2015-11-14 13:39:13

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-11-14 13:34 static/image/common/back.gif
no, nimaya's speed just has to be higher than that of the enemy vg, your hikifune has to be faster ...

well nimaya + hiki + tenjiro with tensa is damn speed lol if it goes tenjiro > hiki >shini kensei >enemies>nimaya ( remember tenjiro have very high speed and increase allies 20% speed with skill)  >main lol  and make shini kensei low hp so he gives invulneribility for 2 rounds loland see the 1 hit crushs

Aristeaus Publish time 2015-11-14 13:59:29

Edited by Aristeaus at 2015-11-14 14:07

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-11-14 13:39 static/image/common/back.gif
well nimaya + hiki + tenjiro with tensa is damn speed lol if it goes tenjiro > hiki >shini kensei  ...
Tenjiro is only a 7% speed boost ( you almost certainly have Muramasa ). It is only a 5% boost if you have Tensa. As long as Hikifune is first, it doesn't matter how fast the rest are. They could all have 1 speed and it works just as well :-P.

Nimaya's dot only effects VG's. It is super strong ( almost 3x as strong as Bankai Rukia's health reduction ). He doesn't do much to anyone else though. He reduces fury, but since Kirio is already going to do that, it isn't that big of a deal.

I don't think you want Nimaya AND Tenjiro, at the end of the day they basically fill the same function in a team. You are just trading Tenjiro's 2nd target for Nimaya's huge VG damage.

So the question is, which one do you run with Kirio? I think both work well. I think Nimaya is better for PvP ultimately ( with Tenjiro still being really good at PvP ) and Tenjiro is better at PvE by a mile ( Health reduction doesn't work on Ryoka/ES ).

Tenjiro is probably better with the Kirio invuln stacking team ( Using Shinigami Yoruichi, for example and ensuring the dot ticks even if stuff goes wrong ). Nimaiya is probably better for a traditional team. 5 Mil Health VG takes 4 million damage from his DoT. lol
There is also the Metagame that ends up switching to NO VG with Kirio. That would significantly reduce Nimaya's value. Really depends on what you are facing I suppose.
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