SosaRey Publish time 2016-3-17 12:48:30

shadarlo replied at 2016-3-17 10:04 static/image/common/back.gif
It definitely gives 100% now, a few of us have done it.

Can't guarantee it will always give 100%, ...

Perhaps.  I resetted early like 7 or so months ago.  Perhaps they fixed it to 100% now.

shadarlo Publish time 2016-3-17 13:20:59

bwg2469 replied at 2016-3-17 12:47 static/image/common/back.gif
Honestly you could be correct. I just seen the animation on my characters and it looked like a nor ...
Shouldn't be THAT hard to test... could swap lvl 10+ wis stones to an assaulter, then remove and see if dmg changes between 2 rounds.

I'd imagine diff waves could have diff damage types too?  But really 70 is the main wave that matters.

bwg2469 Publish time 2016-3-17 14:32:20

shadarlo replied at 2016-3-17 10:20 static/image/common/back.gif
Shouldn't be THAT hard to test... could swap lvl 10+ wis stones to an assaulter, then remove and se ...

I was thinking about it and i'm almost sure wave 70 is physical.

Shadow49999 Publish time 2016-3-17 14:35:18

SosaRey replied at 2016-3-17 12:48 static/image/common/back.gif
Perhaps.  I resetted early like 7 or so months ago.  Perhaps they fixed it to 100% now.

maybe its vip level if your vip level is enough it gives you 100% back

shadarlo Publish time 2016-3-17 14:49:51

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 14:35 static/image/common/back.gif
maybe its vip level if your vip level is enough it gives you 100% back

I'm only VIP 7, so decently high but nothing crazy... but I suppose it's possible.  

SosaRey Publish time 2016-3-17 16:28:10

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-3-17 14:35 static/image/common/back.gif
maybe its vip level if your vip level is enough it gives you 100% back

Very good point.  At that time my vip level was like 3.

Devvoke2 Publish time 2016-3-17 20:35:26

shadarlo Publish time 2016-3-20 21:54:41

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-3-17 20:35 static/image/common/back.gif
similar power just imagine a holmes lvl 5 will blow them out of the water

Why do you think Holmes is so good when confronted with the obvious evidence that there is almost no difference besides a little pdef?  I mean, sure, he's better.... but holmes will always be 70+ levels below Gin.  So there's almost never a time except when you've maxed gin at 150 and have tons of free points to spend that Holmes would be better.  IT would take 3+ years for that, if not 4+

Devvoke2 Publish time 2016-3-20 22:07:33

shadarlo Publish time 2016-3-21 12:51:16

You cannot get Holmes in 1 year, not even close.  It would take minimum 2 years.  I know because I've played for a little over 1 year and I JUST got Gin now.  Holmes is twice as long as Gin.

I had Kenpachi to lvl 95 in 1 year.  So in another year I'd have Gin to 80ish prob.  In another year after that 120 maybe?  And MAYBE in another year that would be 150.  That's 4 years of playing to max Gin out.  At that point I'd have holmes to MAYBE lvl 100 (the inner mod souls take longer to level).

A level 150 Gin will be far superior to a lvl 100 holmes.  So it would take another 12 months before holmes got into the 125+ range and he'd still be worse than Gin in every single stat except Pdef.  Another year or more after that he'd near 150 So... 6 years after you start, Holmes will be worth using... whereas Kenpachi is worth using in about 2 months and Gin is worth using in 1 year.  
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