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Post time 2016-1-4 21:54:44 |Show the author posts only |Descending
So.....I am curious to know what everyone thinks is a good average hit rate is for PVP.

I run about 2.5 million BP, formation is Noz Kenny, CSB Aizen, Kirinji and then I interchange Shini Kisuke, Kisuke, Cute Orihime etc.  For Zanpakuto I run Hyorinmaru/Muramasa.  What I am trying to figure out is what average hit rate each of my partners need to not miss a majority of the time, I'd be ok missing one out of say ten hit chances.

Right now each of my partner's hit rates are 183%, 175%, 170%, 184%, 178%.  With these hit rates I don't seem to ever really miss (extremely rarely).

I'm not considering facing anyone with an absurd dodge build like say facing an Ishida Ryuken, considering I've never faced one in the months he's been out in neither CSB nor HMA.  Facing a normal average player, whether their VIP1 or VIP10, I'm looking to see what people think the average hit rate is needed to land a hit a majority of the time.  I would like to free up some spirit stone slots if possible, so I am looking to upgrade some stones to condense the amount of hit stones each of my partners use.  Any intelligent input would be appreciated.

Also, I've already beaten Aizen long ago in Hollowmap, so dun care about hit rate for Hollowmap fights, only for PVP purposes.

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Post time 2016-1-4 21:56:13 |Show the author posts only
190% to fight max dodge

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Post time 2016-1-4 22:02:27 |Show the author posts only
So basically 200% would be a definite.

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Post time 2016-1-4 22:08:05 |Show the author posts only
190%? 200%? I said I was looking for intelligent comments, those are 1) obvious, 2) not helpful.

I already stated my current hit rates, which go as low as 170%, and already stated that I almost never miss.  I also went as far as saying I was not considering any absurd dodge builds, which I should be more specific in saying it is rare to come up against a VG with 90% dodge rate (or higher).  I am looking for the lowest average hit rate that people have observed having, and still hitting/not missing often, against players somewhere around my competition level.

I dun care if you got a Yachiru with 100% dodge, cause guess what, my Zanpakuto alone will wipe out your entire team.

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Post time 2016-1-4 22:13:50 |Show the author posts only
For shits and giggles, I just went in-game and checked the dodge rate of the top 5 players (which include myself), only one of us has over 10% dodge on our VG's.  Which was about the same 6 months ago as well, for the most part, at high competition level, dodge stones are a waste of slot on a VG, you'd be better off using a lvl 4 wisdom stone then a lvl 12 dodge stone.  

Not saying all higher end players don't put dodge on their VG, but a majority do not....unless their really high end VIP's and have +2 slots on all of their gear for their VG.

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Post time 2016-1-4 22:17:27 |Show the author posts only
meekrat replied at 2016-1-4 19:13
For shits and giggles, I just went in-game and checked the dodge rate of the top 5 players (which in ...

Very rare people run dodge on their partners. I try to stay at 200% myself and merge stones in to make room for other useful stones like counter or block. In the rare chance your opponent will have super high dodge, i think you can adjust at that time.

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Post time 2016-1-4 23:46:23 |Show the author posts only
Edited by shadarlo at 2016-1-4 23:48

At 153% on one partner I still never see him dodged in PvP.  But I tend to run max dodge on my VG and have noticed Soph Rang does indeed dodge some stronger opponents at times and it has won me a fight here or there that I might not otherwise have won due to them not getting fury.  When I tried out a build with Nel I actually could beat FAR stronger opponents at times due to her enhanced dodge build abilities. I'd likely have built around her if not for the new Red partners coming out and making her now totally uselessly slow in comparison.

I'm curious how you beat Aizen in hollow soul "long ago" as I have 2.4 mil BP and am stuck on the 2nd fight.  I gather Noz made it possible with a very high hit rate?  My highest hit rate there is Sexy Yoru at 220+ and she misses in the second fight about 80% of the time it seems.   And even without a miss, the group fight on the first Aizen fight was hard enough... I'd imagine the 2nd will be a bit harder. I'd imagine Aizen's final group fight is harder still.  So I'm wondering what I'm missing to be only 100k under you and not anywhere near clearing Aizen it would seem.

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Post time 2016-1-4 23:50:52 |Show the author posts only
meekrat replied at 2016-1-4 22:08
190%? 200%? I said I was looking for intelligent comments, those are 1) obvious, 2) not helpful.

I  ...

And how exactly does a zampaktou wipe out a whole team?  Does it get stronger by your level, reiatsu, how exactly does your zampaktou get stronger to wipe a whole team, besides fortifying it?

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Post time 2016-1-4 23:53:08 |Show the author posts only
shadarlo replied at 2016-1-4 23:46
At 153% on one partner I still never see him dodged in PvP.  But I tend to run max dodge on my VG an ...

Is that 2.4 mil normal BP or reiatsu/pve BP?

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Post time 2016-1-5 02:08:04 |Show the author posts only
You never have enough hit rate if your opponent is using Ryuuken.





I use 200% on everybody though lol

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