PvP formation (tell me how to counter this please)

UnKnOwNHoLlOw

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 10:18
are you sure shin gin is faster than csb aizen? I can see CSB aizen growth rate is much higher tha ...

Yes i'm sure Shin Gin talent 'increase 45% agility' CSB Aizen talent 'increase 30% agility' ..... 15% is a huge difference .....

Eilisa

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 10:22
Main is ghost blade

Comparing teams that can trade blows or die in one round?

UnKnOwNHoLlOw

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 10:20
and yes if ultima aizen isnt the fastest.. I wouldn't post this formation.. I would go with 1-3-1  ...

might i ask how everyone knows that ultima aizen is fastest when his talent isnt clear and no one has him yet even in CN ? -.-

Curls88

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2015-3-14 09:31
might i ask how everyone knows that ultima aizen is fastest when his talent isnt clear and no one  ...

Well.. lets ignore ultima

who is faster CSB Aizen with tensa or mugetsu/white ichigo with senbon?

and why is shinso gin faster than csb aizen when csb aizen has much higher growth rate than shinso gin?? with agility talent and mods with speed??

CSB Aizen growth rate is 4.5 for agi with mods 10% speed
Shinso Gin growth rate is 3.8 for agi with mods 10% speed and 10% own kido speed, idk what is that.. but lets say 20% speed..

Will that beat the 4.5 agi growth rate and 10% speed?

UnKnOwNHoLlOw

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 10:32
Well.. lets ignore ultima

who is faster CSB Aizen with tensa or mugetsu/white ichigo with senbon?

Yes it will ..... His growth rates are maybe high but it certainly isnt enough to cover 15% to agility (assuming both have the same things) and as for the mod, ally kido 10% speed means after that mod all the kido type characters in your team will have their speed increased by 10%.....

Curls88

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2015-3-14 09:27
Yes i'm sure Shin Gin talent 'increase 45% agility' CSB Aizen talent 'increase 30% agility' .....  ...

the talent for shinso gin is the same like aizen both says Increase agility by a higher percent.. where is the proof of 45% vs 30%?

Leitzur

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 22:32
Well.. lets ignore ultima

who is faster CSB Aizen with tensa or mugetsu/white ichigo with senbon?

shinso gin 10% own kido speed means

he adds all kido-type partner's speed (in your team) by 10%

UnKnOwNHoLlOw

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 10:40
the talent for shinso gin is the same like aizen both says Increase agility by a higher percent..  ...

If you dont believe me check Azrials guide or ask someone And yes Mugetsu and White Ichi MIGHT be faster with senbon than CSB Aizen with tensa ..... btw how much speed does Tensa add to Support and how much speed does Senbon add to assaulter :/

Eilisa

The formation I would run to counter this would be.

Zanpakuto: Muramasa (since know the buff from mura attack skill)
1: Shin Gin (Fury to other two support (not sure if can gain fury with while under fury restriction though) + 10% innate speed buff to support + to enable mura speed buff)
2: Daig Tosh( Disarm (no partners immune to it yet would lock mugetsu and main before they acted)
3: Tavern Aizen (The oddball partner here but has highest chance of working vs Ultima Aizen since Ultima is Silence proof and Fury Reduction Proof)
4: Main (4th skill Demon Ichigo doesn't have an immune from stun mod)
5: VG can be a variety of choices depending on situation but best choices would be Noz Ken for this group or Rangiku depending on how start of fight goes.

Its not the perfect counter but would have a chance if both teams are equal in gear etc.

BurakCinar

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 10:40
the talent for shinso gin is the same like aizen both says Increase agility by a higher percent..  ...

in china it says in numbers i believe. hopefully they will change it over here too... or you have to check by urself by taking off EVERYTHING and compare one partner to another. azrials guide says shinso gin is 45% and csb aizen 30%