Isshin Endgame

MikkyX

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-4 14:59
Isshin is easily faster than main though since he has an agility talent and main does not. Isshin  ...

The modify's would take a while, since as I'm seeing I'd need to modify him 1st to 1 star.  Doing math's that takes while.

Also, as for evolution, which I'm currently doing with my hired partner, cause I hired isshin in lease and I'm gonna pay for him little by litte, I hope there's no problem with evolving him while hired, but anyways, I really haven't noticed any speed boost in him.  Maybe because I just started, and I'm in his 3rd evolution, but still, a quick glance to it, seemed that evolution didn't make him very fast.  

I could be mistaken though, perhaps it's in the far later levels of evolution, maybe 8 or 9.

Suzuken

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-4 23:48
But you have to make sure he is faster than the enemys main.  Or else they attack and they could d ...

that's pretty much a good plan you only need to make sure you have enough power to survive your opponents hit if you can't make him faster as long as you don't get stunned,fury deduction you will pretty much win the game so Aizen will help you by shutting down support if you don't have good stun resist which means you only need 1 of 2 things here
1-make isshin faster than main and he will make you attack after him with his combo rate ( you will give you T1 if you made him T1 as well which means destroys whole oppnent team in round 1)
2- make him tanky enough to survive a wave of enemy's attack and after that  Aizen will shut down both assaulter and support
the rest if just some work on your vanguard to make him last for the whole fight to cover isshin in case he took some serious dmg and making Aizen at least faster than enemy's support it's a really though diamond to break if you made isssin T1 and fastest but that isn't easy i guess x) so good luck man i hope everything works out well for you

Zento-Hazashi

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-4 20:55
I got 2 assaulters, and isshin hits 4th.  The reason why I make my main faster than isshin, is tha ...

oh when i meant Isshin to attack first


I meant as in out of all the assaulters you have

all you have to do is make Isshin attack faster than your Assaulter(s), that's all, no-one else xD

Kosmodestiny

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-4 15:58
The modify's would take a while, since as I'm seeing I'd need to modify him 1st to 1 star.  Doing  ...

Just checked, and with identical gear my isshin has about 25% more speed than main. That's at evolution level 9 without the speed modify. With that he'd be even faster. So yeah, isshin is very easily faster than main if you put the same stuff on both.

bwg2469

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-4 13:07
Just checked, and with identical gear my isshin has about 25% more speed than main. That's at evol ...

Does isshin need to attack first? I have renji and hit 135mil a hit in ES, this might take it farther. i mean renji hits first then him. edit

MikkyX

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-4 16:07
Just checked, and with identical gear my isshin has about 25% more speed than main. That's at evol ...

I don't.  I have lit 4th and 3rd espada on main, while the 2nd and 1st espada have 5 stars on them, they need one more to complete it.  I do this because if main hits harder, he hits all, thus he can onehit most enemies this way.  

My isshin, has like 5 stars on espada 4 and 3 and like 4 stars on espada 2 and 3 stars on espada 1.  But I think If I put him more agility stones on him, he can pass main.  I only have 2 agility stones on him and main has 3, reason for that is I have fury stones on both of them to help  with t1, as other stones, like stamina, strength, counter, brk defense, hit, critical.  So I'm trying to manage

MikkyX

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-4 16:07
Just checked, and with identical gear my isshin has about 25% more speed than main. That's at evol ...

OH kosmo, since you have isshin, and you seem like a good damage dealer with berserk renji and isshin, help me with something. In pve like ryoka or ES, I assume you use in assaulter line, main, berserk renji and isshin.  What's the best order in terms of speed and combo that you use for them.   Who goes first and who goes last?  

I use main, isshin and kenpachi.  And also I use 9th skill. Though I'm not sure if in pve my main should go before isshin, so he does 9th skill and gives attack boost, or make isshin faster than main, so he combos in 1st turn.  For reference, I use kisuke, rukia ias supporters.

MikkyX

595459354 replied at 2015-9-4 15:17
I'm the guy from that clip and at that time I didn't had a lot of speed so my way to counter a t1  ...

I tried that, isshin>main, but what I found is isshin gives combo rate, he doesn't combo right away.  Isshin would skill, and gives combo rate to main, but if main wasn't faster than enemy, the enemy would attack first.  Some had a gin, which stunned me and made my assaulters done for, while others had kisuke giving t1 to main, so silenced didn't help much there as they'd attack with last skill.  

By making main hit before isshin, I could wipe assaulter lane, thanks to gin helping there, and in cases do serious damage if not wipe out supporters.  

MikkyX

moongoatie replied at 2015-9-4 15:57
You can't get Ultima as you're now, he requires vip6. You can make Isshin faster than main easily  ...

I could be vip6 that's not a problem the problem is being vip7 to reset huecomundo twice.  I only make it to espada 3.  Beat it sometimes and sometimes I don't.  In a few months, I could be vip6, but the time to get ultima aizen, resetting only once and reaching espada 3, would take forever.

They do have same gear, only my main has more souls to him, because I need him to hit hard.  I can put however more agility stones on isshin.  I will try that.  

MikkyX

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-9-4 16:03
oh when i meant Isshin to attack first

Well I use a 2-2-1 formation, so basically he'd have to attack faster than main.  But as mentioned before even if he were to attack before, if my main wouldn't be near as fast as isshin, I'm risking the opportunity for the opponent to attack me.  Isshin skills, gives combo to my main, but my main won't attack right away.  My main will only attack immediately if isshin combo's on skill, or if my main is faster than enemy.  Of course this rule doesn't apply on later rounds, as combo rate would be active.