2-2-1 vs 1-3-1(for end game) for kido main

MylarHyrule

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-11 11:42
Let me explain something to you.. KIDO main is VERY different from Physical main. IF a KIDO main ru ...

my 2 sense...  you mean my 2 cents?    lol   your funny bro...   and if you payed attention to the question,  he's f2p, maybe in the future he will be low VIP...   also,  like you said, MOST kido partners are very weak, so your stones for them won't interfere with your main's stones...   just saying you prick  go enjoy your overpriced game.  Oh, one last thing,  top in my server...  BP is 2.1M,  they average 4B damage in Ryoka...  and they run a 1-2-2 with a kido main...  so many people with much less BP than you that deal sooo much more damage...   but then again...  we are all stupid and your the king...    Like my father used to tell me...   Son, if everyone else is stupid and fucked up maybe you should look at yourself...    then again, maybe not

moongoatie

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-11 11:52
I'm going to assume your server is nearly empty then.. Because I have a way better team than you an ...

Around 12 ppl that 1 hit around 51. Top 5 that 1 hit till 60. The fact that you mentioned that you got way better team than mine and as I saw you are about 600k bp higher than me, and you can't figure out how assaulters can survive till wave 70, then you're doing something wrong.

Since you mentioned the OP above, you should keep in mind that he is f2p. f2p/low vip pvp is about controlling teams. If you think a f2p player can get higher speeds on assaulter line than on support, then I won't even bother to continue the argument.

Your perspective is correct, but on a totally different end game.

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MylarHyrule replied at 2015-9-11 16:28
my 2 sense...  you mean my 2 cents?    lol   your funny bro...   and if you payed attention to the ...

OR maybe.. on my server everyone is on average stronger than the people on your server... you can only get in so many hits.. clown. If we only had 10 people I could have well over 4 Bil damage. I get 3.5Bil + on a competitive server where MULTIPLE people are at around 1.5M  BP..

Think about it logically.. if 15 people can 1 hit til about lvl 57 and you only get to attack every other wave how can I achieve my max? I can't.. I hit 3.5Bil and the next closes hit's almost 2Bil and the next 3 hit 1.5Bil.. etc.. do the math.. More people = less possible damage per wave.. and guess what.. Your top guy could do more damage with a 1-3-1 and be equally effective in pvp as well.

I don't even have to change my partners to hit 3Bil damage.. all i do is swap my skill from 10 to 8.. Like I said.. I'm trying to give this man the best possible advice for current lowbie gameplay while setting him up for a solid future, but if you want to keep on debating it, by all means..
And KAZESHINI makes it pretty easy to make assulters faster than support.. but you only need 1 support anyways.. its far easier to just run anti stun skill and offensive 1-3-1 than it is to run a 2-2-1 and focus on controlling.

dolahina

moongoatie

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-11 20:07
OR maybe.. on my server everyone is on average stronger than the people on your server... you can o ...

Only one supp needed? You got a supp that has fury reg/stun/aoe, while tavern choices are one of these 3
And you compare the 6% bonus from kaze with 15% agi talents and 8% speed modify that tavern supports have, okay. As I said, I won't even bother to continue the argument

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moongoatie replied at 2015-9-12 05:24
Only one supp needed? You got a supp that has fury reg/stun/aoe, while tavern choices are one of t ...

Yeah you only need 1.. I used Rukia and later Kisuke as a sole Support.. There's no need for stun if you play the... "I'm faster T1 Game", which is pretty much PVP past level 70.. First one to attack wins..  It's more cost effective and less resource heavy. You can get free fury stones from Reio and you only need 4 Basic for Rukia and 5 for Kisuke.

I was TOP 5 since day 1 on my server, yeah I started off 2-2-1.. awesome.. but at lvl 70 when my Rukia was full mod.. I painfully switched to 1-3-1.. I used Tavern partners for months before I got my first Event partner(Shin Yoru).. so don't hand me that "Tavern" BS..
And Kazeshini is 18% speed to Assulters and 12% to support, so what are you talking about?

moongoatie

18%-12%=6% difference, that's what I meant. And yeah t1 kisuke +t1 gin will be much better for a low vip/f2p, cause u ll never land ur skills on 1-3-1. A vague example is my main with my best agi stuff got 195k speed, same on gin/aizen can get 220k for fun

MylarHyrule

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-12 11:36
Yeah you only need 1.. I used Rukia and later Kisuke as a sole Support.. There's no need for stun i ...

done with arguement...  did you just say you need 4 basic fury stones to T1 rukia, and 5 basic fury stones to T1 Kieske?!?!?    I mean,  really?    surely i misunderstood...  please let me know what i'm missing, as my understanding of T1 is it's a VIP game and one i'm working to get into...   like...   the number i was thinking was over 100 of them (combined into 6 of course)

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MylarHyrule replied at 2015-9-12 19:11
done with arguement...  did you just say you need 4 basic fury stones to T1 rukia, and 5 basic fur ...

Yes you read correctly.. Modified Rukia and Kisuke both have an Initial Fury mod.. Rukia only gives to Assulters and Kisuke gives to all.. Rukia is able to fully mod at lvl70 and Kisuke is lvl100.. any other partner does require a lot of them.. There's serveral ways..
However u need a few extra so that your partners proct.. You need a few fury stones on each partner as well for them to benefit..