CSB Byakuya vs CSB Aizen

SeiryuSky

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-15 10:16
hmmmm.... Bya is beta than Yama, Main is AOE, Bya is AOE, kenny is tank Buster, what else do you n ...

kenny is bugges for pvp you're still low level so you dun know importance of speed when you reach my level of rivalary you'll know why i putted yama with bya it's not like you can one shot ppl because you have all team AOE you'll see with time ( it's about efficacity not only target)

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[email protected] replied at 2015-10-15 10:17
if you get Stuck with a BAD as Stark and you cant KO him within two rounds then you are fucked, cu ...

I have even seen Visored Ichigo Mess up that kinda formation, so best to get a tank buster

theguyinblack

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-15 15:19
I have even seen Visored Ichigo Mess up that kinda formation, so best to get a tank buster

well since his Isshin and Yamma do almost all the work i guess there's no harm in using the 5th skill

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I cant Find the Video... Deem. well, in the Battle Report there where two Kenny on a Team Tavern and CSB the CSB t1 One Shot the Tank and the tavern t1 One Shot the assaulter  the main took care of the rest...
Edit: In 1 Round T1, would have still ended in 2round without t1 so...  

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theguyinblack replied at 2015-10-15 10:20
well since his Isshin and Yamma do almost all the work i guess there's no harm in using the 5th sk ...

True, Hmmmm i totally forgot abt that one...

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Bt why am trying to get my point across is if he truely wants brute force thats Pure Brute Force...

Aristeaus

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-15 10:11
thta's not true the endgame should be : shinso(CSB) - BYA-YAMA-MAIN-DEMON

WITH TENSA with bya giv ...

You would have to use Senbon if you wanted to us Bya. The entire point of using Byakuya would be to debuff+Zan buff before the opponent gets a chance to go, increasing the chances of going Bya into Yama and just destroying.

Using Tensa, you get a 4% higher initial speed on Bya ( Which can be important ), But you lose 6% Speed on your second fastest character. In the case of using Tensa, it makes more sense to use a more damaging character like Mugetsu or WIchigo who will do more with the initial hit then Byakuya would.

WIchigo is the current fastest assaulter in the game. (.1 agil less the Mugetsu, but 12% speed bond vs 9% speed mod on mugetsu ). He is also the tankiest ( 10% Def mod, and -15% damage debuff on skill ). Using him with Senbon might be the sexiest thing in the game. You don't get the Attack buff, but having -15% damage debuff, +25% Def, +10% def mod, with him skilling first 99.9% of the time with Yama Tier 4 Mod? Hot.

I would say my Endgame would be:

Senbon
Tavern Unohana - WIchigo-Yama-Main-Demon

With using Senbon you really can't care that much about Supports, so having a 150% heal on death will go quite a long way with WIchigo's absurd tankiness. Could also go Barragan for the DOT or Nel for the Dodge buff, literally anything that even if it gets one shot ( which it probably will since your using senbon ) it will still have some effect on the outcome.

SeiryuSky

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-15 10:31
You would have to use Senbon if you wanted to us Bya. The entire point of using Byakuya would be t ...

talking if he wants to make CSB FASTEST OR SHINSO (SO HE GIVE T1 ) otherwise ... SENBON FTW ( i use senbon )

nope mugetsu still faster (tested)

tavern unohana ... for the seek of god? bro ....

Aristeaus

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-15 10:37
talking if he wants to make CSB FASTEST OR SHINSO (SO HE GIVE T1 ) otherwise ... SENBON FTW ( i us ...

Mugetsu cannot be faster. There is no possible way that .1 agility per level out performs 3% extra speed. That is just.... not how math works.

Let's be generous and say that .1 agility amounts to 10 agility per level. Level 100 would be 1000 agility. 6 Level 12 stones is 270% agility + Passive is 288% agility. That is a total of 3880 speed. Add in speed bonus ( 21% Zanpakuto, 10% Yama, 9% Passive ) means that .1 Agility is worth 5432 total speed at level 100.

That means anything past 180k speed, WIchigo's speed bonus of 3% is more valuable then the .1 agility increase. Realistically, it is actually lower since speed is a final modifier, and all your flat speed boosts also get factored in to speed% but not agility%, but 180k is close enough.

SeiryuSky

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-15 10:56
Mugetsu cannot be faster. There is no possible way that .1 agility per level out performs 3% extra  ...

its not how maths work its how this game works...