Harribel vs Momo? Level 50 gold

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should I really be wasting all the stars from hunting on 3 level 50 sets gold? seems like a waste. Should I just use those mats for 70? and there is 70 / 80 / 90 gear right?

Glasglow

Lv70 gear requires double the price for each material and the required amount of material is higher, so you will run out really fast out of stars, and you'll be having a hard time in both PvP and PvE with just purple lv50 gear, or lv70 gear, but you can save them.

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is 50 gold better than regular 70 gear? Though you said at 70 it starts at gold and upgrades to red

so wouldnt 70 gold be better than 50 gold?

Glasglow

Theoretically yes, but its about the same or worse, because spirit infusing lv70 gear is expenssive and hard.

First of all, by the base stats, Lv70 gold gear is better than lv50 gold gear, but if you consider that you will have all your lv50 gold gear on spirit infuse lv9~12, then the stat difference will be quite significant between gear.

For example, i have Lv11 Spirit forged Lv50 Blade on my Rangiku, it has 4370 total attack damage at Lv75+ Infuse lv11. (3300+1070).

While at the same time, my Renji has Lv70 red blade with Lv7 spirit infuse which gives him 4100+840 damage, to a total of 4940 damage, there is a 570 damage difference, which gets reduced by 150 because its Red quality, so he would end up having about 4790 damage, like 400 more than her, but problem is, getting Lv7 spirit infuse on all your characters is going to take a while, infuse eats a lot of material on higher level and failing just hurts, you will end up giving like 1-2 infuse levels daily to a few pieces of your lv70 gear and that is it.
So in theory, the gear is better - yes, but practically, it takes a while to get it at the same or higher level than your currently owned lv50 gear, by the time you'll make all your lv70 golden sets even to your lv50 ones, you'll be pretty close to 80 and you'll be changing them to lv80 sets.

I will often see people that are close to lv80, which are wearing gold Lv70 gear, but their gear is the same or worse than my lv50 infused gear, because they tend to spend all their Spirit infuse into their main and then the rest of their formation has this crappy lv70 gold set with low non-infused stats.

EDIT: You can also only get lv70 infuse materals at level 75+ , which i find funny.

What you also need to keep in mind, is that swapping gear sets and upgrading them to the max again, is quite the money sink, especially if you are trying to get Gold Reishi.

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ok so I should just get 3 sets of balrog and 2 cyclone

Balrog will easily get me to 80, and I can infuse and gold 1 50 set now, and then save and do just 1 70.

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so basically ill have

60 Balrog VG
60 Balrog Main
60 Balrog Support

50 gold assulter
50 Purple Support

I chose maybe a balrog for support since ill always have at least one usually 2. So will be nice to be able to switch over and pass off.

As for reish, I think I have to get Youichi Support 1st than the gold fox dude tank right?

Should I replace renji with gold ichigo?

Glasglow

You can replace Renji with gold ichigo if you want to run a assaulter killer build and equip ichigo with one Balrog set, along with your Main, and Vanguard, support doesn't need those sets.

If you equip ichigo will a maxed out Balrog set, he will be dealing about 10k damage +/- which is a lot and you will be one-shotting almost any assaulter squad in PvP up to lv70+.

YagamiLi

Don't get a worthless ichigo or you will regret it.

Glasglow is voicing his own opinion, but don't take all of it to heart.

Ichigo is an extremely horrible assaulter with only 80% growth on his attack.

If you have the money and WANT to be deadly, Rangiku with high str/agi/crit/breakdefense is a much better choice than ichigo.

And if your main is strong enough you can clear the opponent as.saulter lane alone.
Crap I just read that over again, don't even think about replacing renji with ichigo..

Do the math my friend, 200% growth +15% attack boost, vs 80% growth on as.saulters with high phys defense???

Not to mention ryoka and evil spirit???

80% growth isn't going to get you anywhere.

Glasglow

YagamiLi replied at 2014-9-19 08:00
Don't get a worthless ichigo or you will regret it.

Glasglow is voicing his own opinion, but don't  ...

This is funny, because i had the exactly same opinion when i was low level and inexperienced.

She does WAY more damage than Ichigo, and thats a fact, ichigo is generally about one of the weaker assaulters, weaker than most Purples, then again, what did you expect from a free partner?

As for the question out of which , well they are both good, but Renji is probably slightly better, but then again, Rangiku was a free top-up assaulter you got at the begging of the game, so she was basically a stepping stone until you could get a better one at 50+.

Stat wise, they are about the same, there is no big difference, but the difference is that - Rangiku does 180% damage to vanguards and has a 35% crit chance buff with her special skill, while Renji does 200% and has a 20% damage buff after his special skill.
So basically it comes down to preferance if you like crits or stable damage. Renji does 40% more damage (additively , not by 40% in total) but Rangiku has very high crit chance, somewhere around 70% without stones, so if the enemy has no crit counter, he is in for a lot of pain.

That is my post from over a month ago, when i was still low level.
And i will entirely take my words back, because none of that is accurate anymore.

Now that i have gained more knowledge about the game, i can tell you that, Rangiku is not a very good partner past lv60, she becomes really weak and really fast, while Ichigo becomes stronger and stronger.

You would not dismiss ichigo so easily, if you were higher level and fought with people that had a well geared ichigo on their formation.
I can easily say that Ichigo is about just as good as any lv80 assaulter, focused on killing the enemy assaulters.

First of all, you need to consider this - Rangiku and Ichigo are for two entirely different formations and play-styles, one is for vanguard killing, the other is for assaulter killing, and the Assaulter killing formation is much more PvP oriented and very deadly if played right, there won't be an Assaulter that replaces Ichigo in that role, until lv80+.Believe me, if you meet a Ichigo in a Balrog set, he will demolish your team in PvP so badly, that you never imagined him being ever able to do something like that.
In lv80+ PvP, Vanguard killing formations are not very viable anymore, reason for that being is that, you will die way faster, before you can kill the enemy vanguard, best PvP formations are 1-2-2 and 1-1-3, 1-3-1 is not optimal, its very vulnerable and weak.

Currently i have a lot of trouble against people with Ichigo/Main formation on their team, its very hard to win against them, when their Ichigo does 15k damage each turn, on my 35~45k HP assaulters.
And when you will run into a Main/Byakuya type of formation, you will have to pray that you have more agility, to kill his assaulters, before he can kill your entire team on the second turn.

As for rangiku, when you'll meet a decently geared komamura on the enemy formation, you'll see her doing  no damage to him whatsoever, as i said - i will repeat, Rangiku is a free partner you get for topping up and she is great until level 55~60, thats where you will start considering to change her, as you will see her doing less and less damage compared to Renji and your Main. Also her critical rate? It doesn't exist in Lv70 content, monsters have so much anti-crit that she almost never crits , even with 100% crit rate. She is still good in events like Ryoka invasion and stuff, but Renji does more damage than her even there, reason for that being is because Renji's passive gives him higher STR multiplier and his default damage is just more solid with better gear.


As for Ryoka events that you mentioned, 0-2-3 or 0-3-2 formations are the way to go, and basically anything you can get with good damage - works.
Ichigo isn't ideal in those events, and you will want to get Ikkaku for that eventually, which comes at lv80.