shura ken necessary?

Suzuken

theguyinblack replied at 2015-11-28 21:58
if silenced or disarmed you can still attack

you're right lolz my bad

theguyinblack

Suzuken replied at 2015-11-28 19:00
you're right  lolz my bad

oh also when chaos-ed, you attack your team with normal att...

Suzuken

theguyinblack replied at 2015-11-28 22:02
oh also when chaos-ed, you attack your team with normal att...

Yep, even though when i said you "can't attack" is still true in the case of disarm since disarm you can't attack without 100% fury and silence you can't use your skill attack and chaos you can't attack your opponent ;) but i guess calling it getting controlled by the enemy is more accurate

kosmik

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-27 23:44
Lol I mostly have 90% break def on most of my partners specifically for ES and Ryoka. I figured it ...

ahh never noticed @ 150, skip anyways, good to know though; everyone is a lil over 90% break now from bonds.

MikkyX

theguyinblack replied at 2015-11-28 13:54
controls : stun, silence, void, fossilize, ... some other kinds that i forgot ... here' a link to  ...

Ah, ok.  But the brk defensa decrease that shura ken does, actually works for ES then I suppose.  So with his skill, does that mean I'd block more?

grzesiekgabrile

sry but i need to say this, you question is stupid...
Shura Kend vs full mod Kenpachi... rly
And you worry about 10% block...
1. Shura Ken is beter
2 Grimm is little beter that Kenpachi(bar)
3 if you worry about ryoka will kill you to fast use vanguard...i do this some time ago, when vawe 50 come i change asa for van
4 if you have problem to kill high lvl ryoka use Rukia+Kisuke combo (it is rly easy to have this 2 supp t1 with full mod)
5 Shura Ken skill increse 20fury when he use skill, so with Rukia+Kisuke is chance to use skill all round ( like someone say) and you have Isshin, yes?
any question?

theguyinblack

MikkyX replied at 2015-11-28 20:35
Ah, ok.  But the brk defensa decrease that shura ken does, actually works for ES then I suppose.   ...

yes, assuming ES and Ryokas have about 80% or 90% break def, Shura's skill would help you alot

Shadow49999

uwannadonkey replied at 2015-11-27 19:40
10% block is like level 7 block stone, and should not outweigh the benefits of a 350% skill rate whi ...

level 7 block stone is 9%

MikkyX

grzesiekgabrile replied at 2015-11-28 16:09
sry but i need to say this, you question is stupid...
Shura Kend vs full mod Kenpachi... rly
And you ...

I know shura ken is way better.  That is perfectly clear to me.  Only the 10% block was my concern, I don't know how much of a big deal that is.  NOt good with numbers so I don't know.  

I don't worry about ryoka killing me fast, I use vanguard, and I do fairly good there.  YOu only need so much damage there to beat them.

  It's the ES that I'm a bit more concerned.  As the levels get higher, they will do more damage to me, thus, I got to find a way to decrease such damage that I receive, and the block might help, but as many are saying, 10% is insignificant.  

As for high level ryoka, I really don't have problem with those.  I just wait till they are at a decent hp, and snipe them.  And I did have kisuke,rukia combo with t1, but I decided to switch out rukia because her damage was insignificant, even with fury, plus I had isshin so I didn't need her.  

I don't think I'd ever use rukia again.  It's just unecessary as I don't really use her in pvp or in other stuff.  I use shini uruhara  better because if he crits or if kisuke crits, he skills next round.  And I very well use him for pvp.

badbone

uwannadonkey replied at 2015-11-27 16:21
all i know is2 things: block is useless in ES. and growth rate is king in ES

useless i do 13m dmg from block and will increase in future is that useless