shura ken necessary?

iz4n4minok4mi

Unless you plan to get berserker renji, shura ken from CSB is the way to go. With that 75% decrease of break def, you only need like 30% block on partners to block almost all the time. As ppl said that 10% block is nothing compared to that dmg increase and the debuff not to mention that if you are doing fairly good in ryoka as you say.. you will have that block back in no time with stones.
+ as said above, block is no way near useless in ES, it can add quite a lot of bonus dmg if you block often.
Also I would say that these days even going for csb aizen is pretty much useless with all those OP hikifunes running around, csb ken will be usefull all the time unless you plan to get something better for gold in event. White ichi might be good from csb but again.. with hiki around he will not do much good in pvp because he is slower than hiki and will probably not even get to attack with fury reduction and invincibility from her.

uwannadonkey

badbone replied at 2015-11-29 09:12
useless i do 13m dmg from block and will increase in future is that useless

10%? sure.

justifying a partner for 10% when you can get it with stones makes no sense.  growth rate, you cant put a stone for

badbone

uwannadonkey replied at 2015-11-29 11:39
10%? sure.

justifying a partner for 10% when you can get it with stones makes no sense.  growth ra ...

i cant get what  are you talking about

uwannadonkey

being able to do 350% of your normal dmg every skill isnt something you can enhance and is fully built into the partner.  block is just a spirit stone away.  therefore, block should NOT be considered a valid argument here as to keep an older, less growth rate partner vs one that does immense dmg

MikkyX

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-11-29 09:33
Unless you plan to get berserker renji, shura ken from CSB is the way to go. With that 75% decrease  ...

You do have a point there.  I've reached my max block with hollow ichigo.  102% I think, and I'm not sure if I will do evo on him as I've seen it has a bunch of unecessary combo.  Maybe I'll go with noza ken in future but I"m not really sure yet, as I can only reset once and I'm still far from him, probably 6 or 7 months away, I have 750 coupons for his first form still, shin shura ken.  So I could use the rest of block stones to put on my partners to increase their block.  

As for block in ES, doing more damage is one part of the equation, but right now my ES is at 151.  And it will only get higher and higher and I fear as that happens I will receive more damage, thus maybe one of my assaulters will die in 6or so rounds, not sure as I always skip but it could happen.  That's why I was a bit concerned in block, so I reduce damage I receive.  But if brk defense works as you all say against ryoka and ES, then I'd need less block stones, so that's a good point there, to consider.

White ichi would be a great addition though I only have 4k stones.  I get around 500 stones every csb, so I'd need approximately 16 more csbs to consider getting white ichigo, that is if my csb doesn't only get stronger.  

MikkyX

uwannadonkey replied at 2015-11-29 11:39
10%? sure.

justifying a partner for 10% when you can get it with stones makes no sense.  growth ra ...

that's 10% on 3 assaulters, but I never really considered how much stones were needed for 10%.  Perhaps I should've taken notice of this.  YOu do have a valid point there, but since I have an unused panthera grimjow just sitting there with 2 star at level 90, I'd think shura ken was unecessary.  Perhaps I should've mentioned this earlier.

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ryujikun18 replied at 2015-11-27 17:41
i run t1 kisuke and rukia with shura and tavern kenpachi with main's 9th skill i do about 27million  ...

not bad ryujikun, i do 33-34 mil in ES with, tavern ken, main, ikaku, kisuke nd kirinji

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Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-11-27 20:41
For PVE correct?

I'd honestly say Rukia ^^

you wrong kirinji is far beter zen, i was doing like 27-28 and max 30mil with kisuke, rukia, main, ikaku nd ken. now with kiri i do min 33-34mil plus i got the second star on kiri today so more dmg

MikkyX

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-30 02:16
you wrong kirinji is far beter zen, i was doing like 27-28 and max 30mil with kisuke, rukia, main, ...

So kirinji is a good damage dealer for pve?  Hmm didn't know that.  I usually went for kisuke, shini uruhara combo because if shini uruhara crits or kisuke crits, shini uruhara would skill again next turn.  But if you say kirinji has good damage, then I should consider lvling him up because he's just sitting there at lvl 40.

Zento-Hazashi

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-30 07:16
you wrong kirinji is far beter zen, i was doing like 27-28 and max 30mil with kisuke, rukia, main, ...

Its for different setups,his works better without Kirinji, with 2.5Mil BP here, using Kirinji is much worse than using another fury ddealer, so it varies