How Does Dodge Really work?

xbakura

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-10-12 19:39
skill bonuses should break the cap you must mean talent

kinda confued with what was written

Praise God Ryuken for his gifts to the world dodge dodge dodge!!!

erazor123

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-10-12 19:26
but I faced people who had 150 hit rate and never hit me before I skill

that wouldn't be possible ...

that's obvious lol
If you have : dodge > hit then hit - dodge < 0 which means he has 0% chance to hit you

And by 'wasted stones' I mean that you have something like 106% (or even more) dodge but it's restreined to 90%
You can try if you want, just remove dodge stones until you have 60% from stones and check your dodge it will remain the same

Anyway... didn't you read my first comment ?
Dodge is capped at 90% which is everything but mods, bonds and evolutions  


You have 152.2% dodge on your Ryuken. It is : 90% + 60% from your stars (lab' modif) = 150% and I guess his evolution is lvl 1 or 2 ? which makes 152.2%

erazor123

Also you should definitely NOT spending stuff on Ryuken because at your level I guess your enemis have low hit rate and you can dodge but his Max dodge rate is 170.65%, so anyone with more than 270.65% hit rate will never miss you. And because Hit rate is not capped , people in 2.5M - 3M bp have 300% hit rate so your ryuken will not dodge anything...
If you still want to use Ryuken you should try getting either Nel SWP or Koga

MylarHyrule

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-10-12 19:39
skill bonuses should break the cap you must mean talent

kinda confued with what was written

from my understanding, skill bonuses do not break cap, then again, dodge after level 100 is kind of a losing game so I've ignored it in general, if by level 105, you don't have 200%+ hit rate on at least your 3 hardest hitters, your doing it wrong... and to spend real dollars to play such a finicky game that is easy to counter, you've got more dollars than sense in my opinion.  Hell, even the MC's first skill, or any blocking damage in general can beat that game...  just sayin

Shadow49999

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-10-14 15:45
from my understanding, skill bonuses do not break cap, then again, dodge after level 100 is kind of ...

so he does break the cap but is still shit cuz no ones gonna have a low enough hit unless they suck
#Problem Solved

MylarHyrule

Shadow49999 replied at 2016-10-14 15:54
so he does break the cap but is still shit cuz no ones gonna have a low enough hit unless they su ...

even after that (with other stats), you can't break the 90% with stones, so I assumed that the mods were the only thing that counted for

Noza has a break block
Sexy Yourichi has break crit
and neither of these can just keep raising, it only makes the 90% up to 105% (with a 15% bonus) no higher

MylarHyrule

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-10-14 17:34
he was free to start how many people you know have 200%+ hit at 105? funny how people seem to thin ...

first off, level 120 isn't that high TBH, second, my hit started to hit 200% by level 100ish, currently my shinso has 250% and everyone else is around 225%, and as for block, I'm running my PVE team full time ATM, so my main is at 53%, Sexy Y is at 85%, and Shura is at 99%, all that is natural, then add Cute's buff, gives them +20%, and Shura lowers break defense by 75% and has a hit rate of 220% (without my Eagle Eye Raider title on)...  there are many many partners that lower break defense, and many ways to get a good block stat...  Run your Ryukken, love him, he's a great partner...  I think he's just as godly as Starrk, meaning he's not..  A good partner for sure, but I'd take Isshin over him any day, and Isshin is on my bench...  just sayin