Sado Vs Yachiru

lShirol

just "Shiro" is fine and those are both lower case "L"s no "i"s ^^

and I wouldn't say fully useless, but keep in mind the max Block and Dodge rate is 90% unless buffed by skills that can break that and the max Break DEF and Hit rate are the same I think, again unless buffed. So unless you lower the enmies Hit or Break DEF Rate or buff yourself over the max it becomes useless. Dodge becomes useless quicker because you need less Spirit Stones thanks to Refining your gear and also has no other use.

The better deffencive Vanguards give Aid Rate or stronger pure deffence, because then even if you get hit, you get hit for less, not based on CHANCE but static values.

If you were to spend money on boosting Block or Dodge I would prefer Block, just because it is useful longer and has some offencive use, but lategame both are useless and you will be better of replacing those Spirit Stones with Strengh and Wisdom to boost deffence and offence directly. Depending on the server high Dodge can get you a solid spot in the top 10 tho, just because no one can hit your Vanguard, but then you will be stuck with that Vanguard unless you find another Dodge Rate based Vanguard because once you change Vanguard, to a Vanguard that can't use Dodge as well, the Dodge Spirit Stones lose in value. Block will not have the same effect, so in the mid levels you will not be as dominat.

ppvontade

i allways go for the block tanker or defence
dodge is good iff you can get lots of it and nice hp also  iff not go for block tank

dogg56

Go Block Tanks

yungeh

Sado Block>Dodge later on dodge can only take u so far until hit stones start racking  up

dogg56

yungeh replied at 2014-7-19 12:51
Sado Block>Dodge later on dodge can only take u so far until hit stones start racking  up

lol what i said

pepino

Later in PVE you will not have to worry about dodge and block cause the "enviroment" characters will hit you aside the amount of dodge/block you have. In terms of PVP let me remind you that against dodge you need hit and you get hit from spirit stones and equipment refine but when you are talking about block remember that you only can get break defence from spirit stones only

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I still have not yet seen any takes on another thing to consider in having Yachiru.. If you are a gold spender and you can make at least 75% dodge it can do wonders.. People need to remember that all characters in formation does normal attack on first rounds to get fury.. If they miss because of dodge, they wont get fury hence they cant cast any stun skills or any skills that would take you on a disadvantage.. Your opponent/rival in-game would be having trouble investing on HIT RATE stones just to close a hit on your vanguard.

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take note that when I mean 75% dodge, thats just the base.. so meaning 75% plus dodge skill = hax

this option is only for those who can invest and top up for dodge stones. Yachiru can be replaced with Sajin when he is available.

The game is similar to unlimited ninja, so Yachiru is equal to Maito Gai..

So if you are going with Yachiru and have  the cash to get Rangiku the formation can be

Yachiru
Main / Rangiku
Momo / Inoue or Nanao

This formation can easily wipe out the assaulters of your opponent and go straight to the pesky vanguard and supporters without worrying of taking anymore damage
Note: If you have already invested on block stones on Sado, you dont need to worry, because now if you are going to get Yachiru, you're going to have block and dodge combos
You can never go wrong in investing stones on your vanguard as the stones can and will still be used on your later levels and replacement vanguards

Chaotic123

[email protected] replied at 2014-7-20 03:25
take note that when I mean 75% dodge, thats just the base.. so meaning 75% plus dodge skill = hax  ...

You need at least 5000 gold to get 75% dodge.
With the same amount of gold, Sado can be equally imba.
Or I can bulk one of my assaulter with aim rate + dmg to 2 hit (1 normal, 1 skill) Yachiru, using this 5000 gold.

There is a reason why none of the late game vanguards is dodge type.
Whereas, most of them are block type.

Not to mention Yachiru is very fragile, if she is unable to dodge.

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Yes but like I said, if your opponent misses he/she does not get fury hence less skill damage and such.. and yes that will require around that amount of gold, I personally have a Sado with 76% block rate.. but according to experience, if Yachiru is indeed of same stats in unlimited ninja as Maito Gai then it is good to acquire one. Again, "that's if the player is a heavy gold user and wants to advance fast" since these are new servers we are talking about.