Human komamura

theunknown404

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-8 19:23
icing on that IMMUNE TO MUTULATE cake!!    I'm sorry I keep saying that, but everyone said for mon ...

The problem isn't mutilate. It's that they put high percent mutilate and burn together. :/ Fights so boring that way.

MylarHyrule

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-2-8 19:24
Unless there is a Koga or lucky Oetsu, mutilate is not normally the problem with RJ teams.  The ig ...

30% of your total HP, every round of combat (it lasts 3 rounds, and zan goes every 3 rounds)

If you have a vang that can survive 3 rounds (easy to do for most that can afford RJ) then you litterally have to do NOTHING and your foes have at best, 10% HP left...   the mutulate status alone will kill everyone in the game, 100% chance, in 4 rounds, with no work from your party at all, and the only 2 ways around it are sacrifice attack for a dedicated healer that is tough enough to not die super quick, or buy Human K and just forget about it....    and these people are saying he's not worth a 30 to 40k spend (on other shit mind you)...   yes, Sexy K has more def, Noza has better block, Bankai Kenpachi has better attack (I believe), others are better at some stuff, but if you tank up Human's Kido def, and build him like a god-vang, especially if you could put him with your own RJ...    look,  my 1M BP Noza can last solo 10+ rounds with teams that have thousands in partners, over 25 levels higher than me reiatsu, 20 levels higher than me...   surely having a built up Human K with RJ is nothing short of spectacular...  put with that a bad ass Mayuri, and i'll take it easy in support land...  say a Shinso Gin and Bankai Rukia even, as they really don't matter at that point...  if you can't outspeed the team, and just out class the vang in a hurry...  you can't win

mayuri1177

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-8 19:33
30% of your total HP, every round of combat (it lasts 3 rounds, and zan goes every 3 rounds)

If y ...

RJ has 14% mutilate.  You may be thinking of Bankai Rukia with 30% for 3 rounds.  My Mayuri will not die to a supporter unless they have the reincarnation effect of ignoring defense.  He has the reincarnation effects of ignoring damage and the special effect of 34% final damage reduction with current reincarnation level(will be 40% at red).  I have Haschwalth to give him 50% more defense.  Hashwalth heals everyone when he is hit, Mayuri heals everyone when he skills.  He also has 198% block(20% from his halo) and 228% when he uses skil.

theunknown404

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-8 19:13
how is his immune to mutulate not front page news about him...   the absolute most broken thing in ...

While he's immune to mutilate, he has no heal and can take more wisdom damage unless you have him heavily stacked. Also, all this aid rate damage will go to him since he's supposed to be the one with the highest HP. He just doesn't give the same feeling as when Kukaku came out. She was obviously better than all her predecessors defensively in all scenarios. A solid vanguard.

Immune to mutilate is OP on someone like Aizen, but Koma, I'm not a fan of. Unless his aid rate halo is 50% off the bat, I'd rather wait for someone better. I'm not a gambling man.

MylarHyrule

theunknown404 replied at 2017-2-8 19:28
The problem isn't mutilate. It's that they put high percent mutilate and burn together. :/ Fights  ...

right, cut out the mutilate, then you only have to deal with the burn, which is MUCH easier to deal with.

burn is affected by defense, mutilate isn't..

you can out HP and def tank burn in most cases (unless your fighting yourself or Fuji or another insane powerhouse) but mutilate ignores both of these things....   you have 10M HP, 1.5M kido def, 3.2M physical def?  It hits for 3,333,333 each round, because fuck you, fuck your HP, fuck your def (not "you", but you get what I'm saying i hope)

MylarHyrule

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-2-8 19:40
RJ has 14% mutilate.  You may be thinking of Bankai Rukia with 30% for 3 rounds.

I was quite sure RJ was 30% every round...   but I could be wrong there...   if not it's not quite as serious as I was saying, but still, that's a HUGE deal

MylarHyrule

theunknown404 replied at 2017-2-8 19:41
While he's immune to mutilate, he has no heal and can take more wisdom damage unless you have him  ...

I can respect that POV...  I view things differently than a lot of people do...  for as much trouble as people had against RJ, since the first day I saw Koma's mods, I was on board...  ATM he's the ONLY vang I'd drop my Noza for, and I'd do it in a heartbeat...  I'm on Team Noza as he's about to get regen from my Hyorin, and his block damage doesn't care who you are, or what status you have on, he will find you, and he will kill you, lol

wait... just checked Mugen Aizen...  he's got it too...  oh...my...god...   I need a tissue...   He will be mine...  then again I think he will be everyone's, lol      still say Human K is a MONSTER, and has more meta than Sexy K could dream of  XD   FTW

mayuri1177

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-8 19:44
I was quite sure RJ was 30% every round...   but I could be wrong there...   if not it's not quite ...

I will give you an example of the difference in damage between the burn and mutilate.  I bring my main plus Mayuri into HMA with no other partners.  The burn is 348k and the mutilate is 40k on the lower teams.  If I go in with full party the mutilate stays the same since it is just % of hp, but the burn goes to over 1m.  The only place mutilate is OP is in PVE since the HP pools are so much bigger than an enemy in PVP.

MylarHyrule

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-2-8 19:55
I will give you an example of the difference in damage between the burn and mutilate.  I bring my  ...

but mutilate doesn't work in PVE...  or doesn't based on my tests...  plus if the mutilate is only dealing 40k, you are facing someone that really isn't a threat compared to you...  the mutilite is only a thing if your foe has massive defense as high defense nerfs your burn...   you have to remember, your abnormally strong in your server group...  for 98% of players, we don't live in that world...  we can't clear our CSB with only one partner in formation...  we can't hit the void for 40M damage each hit...  we can't kill all 3 ES by ourselves in 6 mins...  sometimes we face people that we just can't scratch very well, or maybe we can, but only with one or two partners we stacked up super high...  or maybe we face a guy built like me, where the back 4 fall quite early on, but you just can't hurt that damn vang...    No real damage = no real burn...   No real damage = exactly the same mutilate...    the burn does help the top dogs more, but for the rest of us, mutilate is the killer...  plus with partners out there like Bankai Rukia and Oetsu, immune from mutilate adds another level of awesomeness...

MylarHyrule

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-2-8 19:55
I will give you an example of the difference in damage between the burn and mutilate.  I bring my  ...

plus, that's 40k on the lower teams...  how much is it in later levels?  while your burn goes down (I'm sure) the mutilate goes up as your foe's HP pool grows...