Human komamura

MylarHyrule

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-2-9 01:32
yeah but didnt you say burn damage takes into account defense?

because it does...  a high defense will cause lower base damage, and therefore will cause lower burn damage...   it is cause and effect...   any burn damage I'd put out would do shit damage vs MAGES. or Fuji, compared to what it would do to you, right?  But mutilate damage from me would do more vs them than vs you...  and the only reason for this is defense...   thus, burn damage is lowered from a high defense, period...  I would call that a direct link...  anything to lower base damage WILL lower burn damage...  and defense lowers base damage

Jackski

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-9 01:11
can't imagine this question meaning anything other than cost, like in gold...   curious what else  ...

Dunno, how much good? (grammar error) or how much human he really is or something like that? xD

Weirder things have been spoken of in this forum xD

MylarHyrule

tytheboy replied at 2017-2-8 23:59
despite having lower kido def than kukakku and no special advantade (orange quality hogu ets that  ...

yeah, I fully agree that ATM, Sexy K IS the defensive chunk ATM...  I'd still take Human K over her any day of the week...  but again, I'm a whore for a God vang, and mutilate is the biggest strike vs a god-vang...  especially a God-Vang with that kind of an attack...
plus, I'm still confused why everyone keeps saying how much better she is...   I mean, asside from kido defense..

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yes, her skill is better and so is her Kido defense...

after that...  he mods better, he evos better, his stats (except wisdom) are WAY better in both base and growth rate...

running a team that is vanguard-centric, I can attest (at least how I'd build him) 90% of his damage would come from block damage, which he will block harder than Kukaku, MUCH harder.... He has a much higher HP pool then maybe even Ichebe, and mutulate doesn't affect him (once modded far enough)...  I know my Noza's kido defense wasn't that great till I accually put work into it...  wisdom stones, kido accessories, Hogus, treasures...  you want a god-vang, some sacrifices must be made...  I'd be willing to give my vang my premium set of wisdom stuff if it helped me more than putting it on my Shinso, true story

MylarHyrule

theunknown404 replied at 2017-2-8 21:17
Actually, burn is not affected by defense either. It's simply a percent of your partner's out-of-b ...

I was trying to say, that if the base attack can't do as much damage, then the burn damage will be lower...   I know my defense affects the damage I take from even zanpactos... or it sure looks that way as my main will take like 100k damage from a zan strike, while my Noza takes like 100 total damage from the same zan strike.
If the base damage is lowered, then the burn damage will be lower...  if that doesn't even suggest that defense affects burn damage, then maybe I'm just too deep...  everyone keeps making the same shallow argument that "defense doesn't affect burn damage" when defense affects base damage, and burn damage is based on base damage, thus if base damage is lowered by defense, then by the transitive property of multiplication, burn damage is therefore directly affected by base damage, which is directly affected by defense...

A=Attack, D=Defense, B=Burn, X=Damage
taking all of the eccentric calcualtions out of it, at it's heart, super simplified it looks like this
A-D=X   B=0.3X      (for RJ anyway)
X is directly dependent on both A and D, changing either of them must change the value of X, changing the value of X must change the value of B...   raising the D, will lower the B...   simple Algebra used to explain what to me seems like a simple statement...

MylarHyrule

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-2-9 12:43
burns and poison bypass/ignore defense

I understand that, but if you can lower initial damage, the burn damage goes down...   if you attack someone with less defense, your base damage goes up, and therefore the burn damage goes up... however if you attack someone with higher defense, base damage goes down, and therefore the burn damage goes down   burn damage comes from base damage, not raw attack power

Zento-Hazashi

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-9 00:12
with insane attack, and immune to mutlate...  I'd wager he's the best vang in the game ATM...

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MylarHyrule

Devvoke2 replied at 2017-2-9 12:59
no no matter teh def the burn is % based off of your psychical/kido atk

answer the ? about yama

I know burn damage hits my party for different amounts...    maybe my experience is glitched, but i'd seriously doubt it

Zento-Hazashi

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-9 17:01
yeah, I fully agree that ATM, Sexy K IS the defensive chunk ATM...  I'd still take Human K over he ...

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