Best Shinso Gin Build

Rokianas

Hey everyone, thanks for checking out on my Thread.

So what i want to discuss is Max Stun Rate Shinso Gin Build.

Now that new Partner Modify system has shown up i was thinking of making my Shinso Gin strong af.
He has 7mods, 2of them are speed so i don't want to get rid of them. So 5 others can be changed to stun rate. Stun rate is 1-6%. So if i were to get 5mods with 6% stun rate (they DO stack, right?) i'd get 30% stun rate from my mods alone.
Also i have gold enchantment on his weapon that gives extra 8% stun rate.
Accessories at the moment gives 28% increased stun chance. Hoping that CSB accessories will give ~40% or even more (can anyone tell if they already got? also how do they upgrade(using Asauchi or Crystal Core   or...    Both?))

So to sum it up i'd have ~ 80% extra stun ratio, but let's consider everyone are using 120lvl accessories that gives 28% stun deduction chance (at the moment best accessories that can be used in my serv (not considering CSB ones)), so summing that up it would be like 50% extra stun ratio on my Shinso Gin that use skill and have chance to stun enemies every single round.

Sure i know there are champions who have immunity to stun from their mods or something, but still.

Tell me what you think of this kind of build.

Thanks for your opinion (if you have shared one with us).

Miken97

CSB accessories give 35% stun chance but you can't upgrade them(as well as any other accessories). In shutara's shop you can upgrade only equipment.
About gin, I don't use him too often (actually he is my PvE character and I use him in PvP only when I'm too lazy to change between PvE and PvP team) but from what I have seen his stun chance is extremaly low (lowest in game I would say) so even with all stun modifications at 6%(what will probably consume a lot of coupons) his chance for stun shouldn't be much above 30% (considering that your opponent has same set of accessories as you) plus most of strong partners has immune stun. IMO this build isn't worth effort but depends on opponents you face. If you're f2p/low vip it can be after all good tactic (personally doubt it tho) but when it comes to higher vips stacking stun won't give you anything.

iz4n4minok4mi

Trying to make stun on shinso viable is just a waste of time. You got to remember that your enemies will have accessory too which will reduce your chance to stun and even if you will have better ones the gain will not be that big + many partners have immune to stun mod so it is not really all that viable as it used to be 2 years ago. It would be better to just increase his dmg, change some mods to + damage rate/break def etc to help you clear enemy formation. If you really wanna use stun, upgraded tavern gin and aizen would probably be better choice and they are not that much weaker now.

MylarHyrule

I'm in the process of doing this ATM...  got my bonus up around 50% ATM, I stun on average of 2 people each time he hits (unless I'm outmatched, but even then I stun at least one person 80% of the time)

MylarHyrule

Miken97 replied at 2017-2-11 18:30
CSB accessories give 35% stun chance but you can't upgrade them(as well as any other accessories). I ...

I went with this because I run Shinso for T1, so he's gonna be there anyway, I just wanted to get all I can out of him...  and really,  now he stuns more than I'd ever have imagined...   and my bonus is only up around 50%

Rokianas

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-12 05:49
I'm in the process of doing this ATM...  got my bonus up around 50% ATM, I stun on average of 2 peop ...

So it's pretty viable.
Because most people now that mods can be changed, get their immune to stun out of the way for some other stats. So tho many have immune to stun mods, they don't really have at the same time
Because he hit everyone, so he have big chance to stun 1 or 2 players each round.
Also, how is that exactly with the accessories from CSB?

Miken97

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-12 04:49
I'm in the process of doing this ATM...  got my bonus up around 50% ATM, I stun on average of 2 peop ...

that's nicer than I thought but still I would prefer to get damage rate even if only for PvE, still don't think that stun is so viable and I doubt that you often stun most important partners of your enemy+ gin can't really compete in speed with red supporters when they're build right

MylarHyrule

Miken97 replied at 2017-2-12 07:55
that's nicer than I thought but still I would prefer to get damage rate even if only for PvE, stil ...

if you can give me another partner that I can run T1 off of from fury build, I'm open to suggestions...  but Tavern Kiuske, Sexy Yourichi, Shinso Gin, Cute Orihime...   I'm running of of options to do my trick with...  and of them, Shinso is WAY faster than the rest...  since he's gonna be there anyway, I might as well make all I can from him, right?

MylarHyrule

Rokianas replied at 2017-2-12 06:57
So it's pretty viable.
Because most people now that mods can be changed, get their immune to stun  ...

if i put the CSB accessories (a serious thought, but i'm probably going with spirit treasure accessories from ultimate library TBH as they are 130 sets and i can get a pair of them for probably $15ish and for now I still need 2x sets of ultimate equipment) and a few more mods (only have 3x ATM swapped to stun) I'm wagering I can get better stun rate than a stock Tavern Gin...  here's my math on it, BTW, I'm estimating his base rate is 10% cause it is very low

base:10
mods:5x5% (as getting 6% on all is just not feasible for me)
evo:2%
acc: 43%
enchant:8%

88% assuming the base stat is only 10%, which is probably low-balling it some, but probably not by much

Miken97

MylarHyrule replied at 2017-2-12 16:07
if you can give me another partner that I can run T1 off of from fury build, I'm open to suggestio ...

Hold on, I didn't say anything about throwing him away,I just meant that making all you can from him would IMO mean to maximalize his damage rate since it will for sure help in PvE at least and can sometimes help in PvP as well, stun won't give you anything in PvE and in most cases shouldn't help that much in PvP when you're facing serious opponents (I may be wrong there tho).