Hiki or senju

Miken97

trojandrew replied at 2017-2-23 16:11
So you want to get ryujin jakka for you zan then. He's not cheap but he'll make you strong

it's better to wait for minazuki, still we don't know her skill (although it is rather safe to assume that it will be RJ's counter) but we already know that she will be faster than RJ and should come out rather soon so buying RJ now doesn't have too much sense

MylarHyrule

ichebe or Noza...  

trojandrew

Miken97 replied at 2017-2-23 10:19
it's better to wait for minazuki, still we don't know her skill (although it is rather safe to ass ...

I'm just saying from what we know concretely and what he was asking. Also I don't know how you counter the unless it's a shield that stops burn or something since we don't know what Mina does yet

Miken97

trojandrew replied at 2017-2-23 16:43
I'm just saying from what we know concretely and what he was asking. Also I don't know how you cou ...

yeah, but we know that it will be out soon so it would be better to wait instead of buying super expensive zan, which can get countered in week or 2, don't you think?

trojandrew

Miken97 replied at 2017-2-23 10:47
yeah, but we know that it will be out soon so it would be better to wait instead of buying super e ...

Ya I agree with the wait. I just don't agree with the counter part. Since they would lose money. I think it's just going to be another viable option

Miken97

trojandrew replied at 2017-2-23 17:05
Ya I agree with the wait. I just don't agree with the counter part. Since they would lose money. I ...

Well, I hope you're right and it won't be one zan being superior to any other but looking at how RJ countered katen it is hard for me to believe it that they won't make RJ's counter now to milk out as much money as they can from high vips who want to remain competitive, about losing money part I don't think that their policy is always reasonable (just by looking at prices for example) so they may do it without really thinking about it

trojandrew

Miken97 replied at 2017-2-23 11:15
Well, I hope you're right and it won't be one zan being superior to any other but looking at how R ...

I'm just thinking how they could even counter him. It would have to be 1) drop enemy defense 2) remove burn/mutilate 3) remove buffs/rebuffs since it's a healing zan 4) huge amounts of team recovery

And the speed increase is already making it appealing to certain comps. We'll just have to wait until we find out more about it

Miken97

trojandrew replied at 2017-2-23 17:23
I'm just thinking how they could even counter him. It would have to be 1) drop enemy defense 2) re ...

My guess would be removing debuffs+giving nice hp regen to own team+maybe something more, but yeah, we have yet to see
Let's just hope that they won't break game even more

Jinzo67

I think if you plane on getting them both you should start with senju to get her speed up.
She adds combo and good fury to support. If built right she can combo all support before your
enemy even goes, and combo doesn't rely on speed. Even if she is only fast one to beat enemy speed,
she can combo in the rest of support before enemy goes, possibly killing a ryujin user before ryujin
can skill.   

But hiki would help your pve. Remember Hiki has to go before opponent for the invincibility to be effective.

absolboy101

x - x i wish my pockets went that deep(late comment on jaka)