Berserk Renji vs Shuhei Hisagi

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Credit to Potdenutella for compiling the list below out of my list above



Literally just got him and he's already that far :p   (Though BRenji's pic is a bit outdated, releasing a video soon about the switch to Shuhei, so stay tuned for an updated SS as wel )

trojandrew

Renji all the way. He looks weaker bc he doesn't have sss growth but  he's better always in any situation.

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trojandrew replied at 2017-3-30 12:51
Renji all the way. He looks weaker bc he doesn't have sss growth but  he's better always in any situ ...

Well, imo he is a bit flimsy vs for example a hiki, he dies in 1 hit and after that his deathmod does nothing...
Shuhei actually survives that first attack ^^
And with the extra dmg rate on shuhei, he is a real beast in pvp :p

ohmyvenus

[email protected] replied at 2017-3-30 06:54
Well, imo he is a bit flimsy vs for example a hiki, he dies in 1 hit and after that his deathmod do ...

u just dont know "something" wont tell ya find urself how n why brenji > hisagi v hiki

trojandrew

[email protected] replied at 2017-3-30 06:54
Well, imo he is a bit flimsy vs for example a hiki, he dies in 1 hit and after that his deathmod do ...

That means your supports aren't doing their job. You should never rely on your assaulters to go first or to clear a team. They're there for pure damage. Your supports are the ones that hit fast and cc. plus renji is hands down the best pve assaulter until muken

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ohmyvenus replied at 2017-3-30 13:20
u just dont know "something" wont tell ya find urself how n why brenji > hisagi v hiki

That sentence literally made no sense :3

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trojandrew replied at 2017-3-30 13:27
That means your supports aren't doing their job. You should never rely on your assaulters to go fi ...

Yea, for pve that is def the case.
However, as i do have 2 very strong supports with one at around 900k speed, im def not blaming it on them.
The fact that a B Renji with the same gear dies in the same round a decently strong hiki attacks, makes him pretty useless to me for pvp...
They both have extra dmg rate and yea. BRenji does more dmg in 1 hit ofc.
But calc it this way: 120% x 5 people = 600%.
280% * 2 people = 560%.


Now, im not saying that Hisagi is 100% better than BRenji, they both have their own purpose, but for my team a Hisagi is better than a BRenji :p


P.S:
You can add t12 treasures on Shuhei too, which makes him even stronger xD

trojandrew

[email protected] replied at 2017-3-30 07:40
YEa, for pve that is def the case.
However, as i do have 2 very strong supports with one at around  ...

Don't know your team comp so it's hard to give advice.

Just wanting to point out that if a hiki is your problem hisagi won't work either bc if invincibility. Also that 600% is spread so you just dmg 5 people while brenji killed 2. Hisagi isn't bad but he's basically the replacement for Yama since Yama is free now. Also using shinsui or hiki in t1 to ensure your brenji can hit is always a good combo.

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trojandrew replied at 2017-3-30 13:46
Don't know your team comp so it's hard to give advice.

Just wanting to point out that if a hiki ...

Thing is that i have Senju & Oetsu, which both don't give invincibility :3
This is my current team, just if you were wondering:

@ra5h_V

whats the purpose of this thread? Shuhei is good for pvp brenji is good for pve? is it obvious? you are using Shuhei then you want our permission? ok you can use him XD