Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 13:30 static/image/common/back.gif
well you see it doesn't matter about the speed, it's why they've added so much technical stuff to ...
The reason why speed matters is simple: Hisagi won't survive.
He has no speed in modifications/talent, so he's going to be hit by a lot well before he can even try... and he's just a assault, not a VG, meaning he won't survive much unless he's stacked way more than the competition.
Hikifune is easy to counter with Oetsu as mentioned.
And I hope Senjumaru is going to become Assaulter... otherwise we'd have 4 Supporters and 0 Assaulters from the 0 Division, which would be stupid IMO.
no matter how great the mofo mods are :D.. if there faster it dead anyway, what a pointless counter LOL
I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-16 18:50 static/image/common/back.gif
The reason why speed matters is simple: Hisagi won't survive.
He has no speed in modifications/ta ...
Dude not every Hiki is op
Example - Bwg's Hiki is quite op right? Well almost everyone in his CSB that is deemed as 'strong' survives against the Hiki, and i've seen enough Hiki's to know def-atk ratio :P
Also, as i said, not every Hiki is a one shot madwoman xD
Also if your Hisagi is as focused as enemy Hiki, that's fine
you're thinking a bit biased there :P
[email protected] replied at 2015-12-16 20:07 static/image/common/back.gif
no matter how great the mofo mods are .. if there faster it dead anyway, what a pointless counter ...
they wouldn't make such a partner if that's the case, they're trying to definitely end this if they are releasing 2 partners to counter, they made partners that don't need speed to beat Hiki
if they added those 2 partners to be faster than Hiki then THEY are the ones that become too op xD
Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 15:32 static/image/common/back.gif
Dude not every Hiki is op
Example - Bwg's Hiki is quite op right? Well almost everyone in his CSB ...
I'm talking about Hiki AND others.
Hisagi has no speed mods, which by default will throw him well behind Hikifune and at least one more sup.
Assuming Oetsu, he's going to hit - definetely - and has Hiki's 50% atk boost on him. And hisagi definetely won't survive getting hit by Hikifune and Oetsu.
I just watched BWG's video to be sure I remembered it correctly, but nothing survived his Hikifune with a noticable amount of HP, even Kagawa's Isshin+Main had just about 10% hp left.
Sure, BWG is stronger by a noticable amount, but Oetsu has higher Basestats than Hikifune and a higher Growth... then add the +50% atk boost from Hikifune on him and you'd need something that survives Hikifune with 75%+ HP to survive a combo of both.
I'm not saying Hisagi is crap, but he's a allrounder which skills every round and high dmg mods, which makes him fairly good in PvE (still worse than Renji and Shini Kensei IMO), so dont expect him to be a counter to what currently dominates PvP, too.
And I say it again: Hikifune IS already countered by Oetsu, just nobody uses him... even after he got thrown at us for 6k, I still feel like nobody but me appreciates him and I do have the fastest Hikifune in my CSB.
I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-16 16:23 static/image/common/back.gif
I'm talking about Hiki AND others.
Hisagi has no speed mods, which by default will throw him well ...
Hikifune IS already countered by Oetsu
THANK YOU
also kosmo and mah bae natsu appreciate him like no ones business
I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-16 21:23 static/image/common/back.gif
I'm talking about Hiki AND others.
Hisagi has no speed mods, which by default will throw him well ...
ugh, Hisagi isn't going to counter 2 peeps.. you're adding another partner into the mix
it's Hisagi vs Hiki
not Hisagi vs Hiki + Other random support of any liking to beat Hisagi
dude that argument from you = a no no xD
Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 16:53 static/image/common/back.gif
ugh, Hisagi isn't going to counter 2 peeps.. you're adding another partner into the mix
it's Hisa ...
HE WOULD NOT BEAT HIKI YOU DUMB ELEPHANT
TAKE ME SERIOUSLY
I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS PROFILE PICTURE
Brahmastra replied at 2015-12-15 10:22 static/image/common/back.gif
Calling it now.. Hiki counter
oh god that avatar
sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-16 21:53 static/image/common/back.gif
HE WOULD NOT BEAT HIKI YOU DUMB ELEPHANT
TAKE ME SERIOUSLY
http://puu.sh/lY9Oq/9f25d5d8bb.jpg
idk, that seems pretty serious to me