I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-16 22:48 static/image/common/back.gif
There is no 2nd round for Hisagi and I do not recall ever having played PvP with just Main+Hikifun ...
so an equal Hiki vs an equal Hisagi means Hisagi = 1 shot? Don't think biased when comparing lol
Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 17:49 static/image/common/back.gif
so an equal Hiki vs an equal Hisagi means Hisagi = 1 shot? Don't think biased when comparing lol
The comparsion is a nobrainer... but well... assuming Hikifune and Hisagi would meet with poor main chars not worth mentioning:
Turn 1 Hiki goes first and kills hisagi or lowers his HP to <25% if he's stacked.
Hisagi fails due to Invincibility.
Turn 2: Hiki kills hisagi easily with a 150% atk normal atk (due to buff).
Edited by Aristeaus at 2015-12-16 17:59
I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-16 17:46 static/image/common/back.gif
Oetsu has +20% agi from Talent and +20% +10% to all ally speed from Mods.
Hikifune has +20% agi fro ...
Universal buffs are universal. Not sure why you people don't understand that.
Tenjiro is the only partner faster then Kirio. Tenjiro is also faster then a 6th mod Oetsu.
Additionally, even if you end up in a situation where someone is running Oetsu without Kirio, getting +110 fury isn't all that hard, where as getting 125 is damn near impossible. Any character that can be countered with a few more stones is not a counter to anything.
I never once said Hisagi was a counter. Hisagi is a good cleanup character, and he pairs well with other fury reducers ( Kirio, Oetsu, CSB Aizen, etc ). He is a top 5 pvp assaulter right now, which isn't bad. Though all assaulters have issues with supports for the time being, making them all play the cleanup role.
I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-16 22:53 static/image/common/back.gif
The comparsion is a nobrainer... but well... assuming Hikifune and Hisagi would meet with poor mai ...
ugh not actual 1v1, im talking in-game against their own buffs and what not, completely equal teams and all, that's how you compare
Just compare their skills and what would happen
If it's both equal Hiki and Hisagi, are you still thinking Hisagi will be oneshot with his own def? Or are you thinking of a 300/400k atk Hiki and only stamina or something on Hisagi?
Hiki first, does skill, gets buffs
Hisagi does skill, DISARMS (stop thinking one-sided)
Hiki, unable to attack due to disarm
Hisagi onwards attacks Hiki until death
why can't you understand actual comparison? Or an equal comparison? xD
Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 18:01 static/image/common/back.gif
ugh not actual 1v1, im talking in-game against their own buffs and what not, completely equal team ...
Invincibility ignores debuffs.
Also, Hisagi is Chance Disarm, and it seems rather low.
Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-16 23:02 static/image/common/back.gif
Invincibility ignores debuffs.
Also, Hisagi is Chance Disarm, and it seems rather low.
Hiki is invulnerability, Uno Ken is invincibility
Hiki only dodges attacks ^^
It's just we never get to see a Hiki get attacked LOL
Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 18:07 static/image/common/back.gif
Hiki is invulnerability, Uno Ken is invincibility
Hiki only dodges attacks ^^
You have no idea how this game works. You should stop talking now.
Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-16 23:09 static/image/common/back.gif
You have no idea how this game works. You should stop talking now.
ikr
im so stooped
Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-16 17:58 static/image/common/back.gif
Universal buffs are universal. Not sure why you people don't understand that.
Tenjiro is the only ...
nnatsu had both and tested, oetsu was faster. but not by much, just a slight amount
JianJinhai replied at 2015-12-16 18:23 static/image/common/back.gif
nnatsu had both and tested, oetsu was faster. but not by much, just a slight amount
I have both. Kirio is faster then Oetsu.