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Sado Vs Yachiru    off [Copy URL]

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Post time 2014-9-14 12:24:07 |Show the author posts only
Edited by marold at 2014-9-14 11:29

And i't why we 'r not agree each other.

In late game the biggest problem is not how u're vanguard will protect u're whole team in pvp. Cause most of player use skill who damage assaulters and supporters lane. It easy to kill a whole team before killing their vanguard. So Block is more useless than dodging cause with 10% more chance of dodge u can barely block a full combo attack. But a full 100% block rate (not possible first round we are agree) u cannot do the same. U just watch and see as i said before.

In pve i said before saijin was better. But u can use Yachiru too. It's more hard but far to be impossible.
Sado have less hp than Yachiru, so she's better than him for a long time invest.

And last. Difference between High VIP player and non VIP player are the Gold/coupon gain daily.
With enough time and less invest Yachiru is better than Sado. And can be usefull as Sajin is cause Block rate seem to be nothing if all u're team member are dead. U need to use ability like stun and them u need to invest on other stone.

I'm not telling i ve got any chance if i challenge someone like u or reijin for now. I'm telling with time i can have a chance a long time before other ppl.

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Post time 2014-9-16 16:01:32 |Show the author posts only
Defintly Sado on PvP specially when you have a player with high lvl hit spirit stone yashirou becomes useless even with high doge stones

In PvE it can be intersting to have yashi since AE are made to be doged in some staged and i'm thinking about the clear instances hard version, with a dodge tone high speed shoes and a high lvl hogyu speed is the must

Basically to be a master in this game at least till lvl70 if you can have both (and keepong them at a high exp lvl) is the best, but let's face it, it is nearly impossible for F2P players.

To sum up: if you want to make it in PVP = Sado

PVE= Yashi

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Post time 2014-9-16 16:39:40 |Show the author posts only
Edited by marold at 2014-9-16 16:41

When i saw last post my first reaction was.
Respond and explain.

And i saw that best argument are always simple.

Why Sado is better... Obviously because... I  should change opinion. Majority's one is always better.  



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Takase Hikaru US 4
Lvl 82    - Arena ranking third
BP 292 K 16-09-2014

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Post time 2014-9-17 08:31:52 |Show the author posts only
Edited by marold at 2014-9-17 08:17

And for the show... People could see why a golden vanguard is no so much better than a purple one at high lvl....Their not a so big diffenrence in Pvp.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... 35641627&aid=54&t=1

My actual BP is 294k bp and my opponent bp is 434k bp....


Tell me if u can do the same with blocking ability.... And for info all high ranking player use dodge spirit stone on their vanguard. Most of them says it's useless... but they still use them when they have to choose between 8 different sort of Spirit stone and have only 6 slot...
It's useless but they still use them. Logical.
Until player have a 190% hit rate on all their partner, having 1% of dodge is still usefull. And they know it.
Spirit stone cost comparative :

For a lvl 80 Yachiru u will need 4 lvl 7 and 2 lvl 8 Dodge stone (she has [18% base dodge rate + 1.8 (max 70 item lvl)x 6 ]    - for a lvl 80 item max bonus per item is 2.1%). And u will have 90% base dodge rating... ok.

A full 6 lvl hit stone will give u 63% more hit chance... But u need five full set. One for each of u're partner, and u will still have 30% chance to miss... U can boost with bonus equipment (for lvl 80 item it's 2.8% max per item...so max gain is 16.8%)

And cost of 5 full set 6 lv hit sone, is little more expensive than a full 8 lvl dodging stone (and still have 30% miss rating).... So tell me here what cost the most.

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Post time 2014-9-17 10:42:32 |Show the author posts only
i Also prefer SADO

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Post time 2014-9-17 10:46:39 |Show the author posts only
I used Sado as soon as I could recruit him. Used him all the way to level 70 after which point I replaced him with Sajin.

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Post time 2014-9-17 11:37:19 |Show the author posts only
SADO B YACHURI B+

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Post time 2014-9-17 12:17:55 |Show the author posts only
Mongolian replied at 2014-9-17 16:37
SADO B YACHURI B+

Getgetsuburi A+
Kazeshini A

We all know which is better. Rank means nothing.

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Post time 2014-9-17 13:22:46 |Show the author posts only
Edited by marold at 2014-9-17 12:45
everflames replied at 2014-9-17 11:17
Getgetsuburi A+
Kazeshini A

Agree.

For example if i use Yachiru with other teammates like a 1-3-1. I will need Kazehini and then it will be very difficult to have a speed fast enough with haribel to stun asaulters's. If i kept Ashisogi Jizo i should use 9th skill to upgrade my assaulters damage for a burst damage and without 10 kill i will loose my ability to damage all lane...

Same time defense bonus given by kazehini are weaker than those given by Ashizogi Jizo.
Yashiru will lose a large amount of HP, and immun rate. And will be kill much more easier.

It's why Saijin or Sado should be better choice with Kazehini, but it's while be more difficult to make a control team. Because of the lack of speed or u're supporters.

Control team much easier to win in pvp, but less damage in pve. Better to have Yoruichi than Sado.
Saijin could be a good choice, too but need a lot of dodge spirit stone for same result.

Assaulter s team. Obviously sado will be better choice, and then Saijin too.... More difficult to make a control team. The only character usable could be Tosen with is special ability, able to make u're team survive for a whole round under fury asault, but u're own stunner while have a lack of speed and could be easily counter by Yoruichi/Aizen in the same time.
It's the reasons that make it's much easier to make a controle team with Ashisogi Jizo... and less expensive with Yachiru.

With previous result u should understand why a control team is very good in pvp. Need less invest for better result. But need chance, and that mean not easy against powerful player. But u can win, it's a major gain.
For same BP value, there's not any problems  win's rate will be obviously in u're favor if u upgrade correctly gear Hogyoku gems, equipment and Hogu. Need to focus on some stats only like agility and gear set bonus.
U're main will be u're damage dealer.

As the fight show u. It's a lot more effective if u're able to stun/kill asaulter and supporters, before vanguard. So it's why vanguard don't have the same work to do at lvl 50 and lvl 70 and more.... u could play a long time with purple vanguard.

So yeah rank mean nothing. All depend on u're own use of  Zanpakuto and partners.

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Post time 2014-9-19 05:37:03 |Show the author posts only
Ive tried yachiru before once  she activated his dodge skill no mobs are able to attack  me, in pvp those whohave accuracy skill can penentrate through yachirus dodge skill and also some mobs dat r capable of hitting the assaulter can skip yachiru.

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